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Old 6/3/06, 6:51 PM
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Default Federal Pacific electrical panels

I inspected a home that had a recalled federal pacific panel installed
in a 1989 home.There were no visual defects,but if a breaker was to go bad they would have to change the entire panel.Can anyone lead me to the re-call information on these panels?


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Old 6/3/06, 6:52 PM
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FPE has never been recalled!!



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Old 6/3/06, 6:56 PM
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Jeff-The electrician said the panel does not exsist any more.What happens in they burn/or damage a breaker.The electrician said they no longer have the type they would need?
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Old 6/3/06, 6:59 PM
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FPE has never been recalled!!
jeff did you see what I wrote back and can you help out?
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Old 6/3/06, 7:01 PM
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There are replacement breakers available and still in production. The electrician misinformed you.

There has never been a recall on FPE or its breakers, although the Stab-lok load centers were "branded" as hazardous http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpepanel.htm



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Old 6/3/06, 7:07 PM
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There are replacement breakers available and still in production. The electrician misinformed you.

There has never been a recall on FPE or its breakers, although the Stab-lok load centers were "branded" as hazardous http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpepanel.htm
Thats the type of panel Stab-lock.My customer has concerns about this panel.I have noted no visual defects and proper awg conductor,no arcing present but they still insist the seller replace the panel.
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Old 6/3/06, 7:10 PM
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Give them the info, send them the link, but don't say it has been recalled. That simply isn't true.

I would be one pissed off seller if you made a false statement such as that.



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Give them the info...let them argue w/ the seller that isn't your job, unless they want to split the commission?
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Old 6/4/06, 10:57 AM
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If they want it replaced that is between them and the seller. In either case it doesn't cost that much to have that done. $100.00 to 200.00 for supplies & labor. A good electrician should be able to change over the panel in under 3-4 hours unless there are some major problems with the original wiring.

Peace of Mind for under $500.00. Am I wrong?



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Old 6/4/06, 11:21 AM
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Those must be MI prices Jason. A new 100 amp service sets you back at least $1200 in these parts.

That's still a small price to pay as far as I am concerned.



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Old 6/4/06, 11:26 AM
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http://www.schneider-electric.ca/www...l/19451968.htm
These panels are still being manufactured and used in Canada.
I do not know if they are much different then what you have in the USA .
I think that around 50% of the homes I inspect have them .
They are not a big concern and I have seen no more difficulties then I see in other installations .
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Old 6/4/06, 11:47 AM
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Those must be MI prices Jason. A new 100 amp service sets you back at least $1200 in these parts.

That's still a small price to pay as far as I am concerned.
You have got to be kidding!

I can go to any Home Depot or Lowes and buy a Square D for under $100.00


http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...VP5&lpage=none

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Item #: 39032 Model: HOMVP5
$54.91

Contains: (1) 20 space 20 circuit panel main breaker panel and (5) 20AMP single pole circuit breakers
Indoor



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Old 6/4/06, 11:54 AM
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Square D Company
200 Amp 30/40 Main Breaker Panel Value Pack



Item #: 39537 Model: HOMVP9$119.00
30 space, 40 circuit
Contains: (1) HOM3040M200TC panel, (1) equipment ground bar, (6) 15AMP and (6) 20AMP single pole, (1) 30 AMP and (1) 50AMP two pole circuit breakers
For indoor use


http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...VP9&lpage=none


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32 Space, 200 Amp, Main Breaker Load Center Contractor Kit



Item #: 103821 Model: TM3220CCU2K$110.00
Interchanging of GE breakers and load centers with other manufacturer's products voids GE's life time warranty
UL listed
200 amp, 32 circuits
Single phase, 3 wire, 120/240/volts AC
Includes the following 1" breakers: ten single pole 20 amp, one double pole 30 amp and one double pole 50 amp
Uses TGK32 ground bar kit if necessary
Factory installed main breaker

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...U2K&lpage=none



Cutler-Hammer
200 Amp Indoor Load Center Value Pack



Item #: 101588 Model: BR3040B200V$99.00
30 space, 40 circuits
Type BW 10kAIC breaker
Aluminum bus
NEMA 1- indoor use
Includes BR3040B200 loadcenter, With 5-BR120 and 1-BR230 branch breakers

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...00V&lpage=none



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Old 6/4/06, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Federal Pacific electrical panels

Around here it would be at least $1,200 for a qualified electrician to upgrade to 150 to 200 amp.
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Default Re: Federal Pacific electrical panels

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Originally Posted by jsieg
If they want it replaced that is between them and the seller. In either case it doesn't cost that much to have that done. $100.00 to 200.00 for supplies & labor. A good electrician should be able to change over the panel in under 3-4 hours unless there are some major problems with the original wiring.

Peace of Mind for under $500.00. Am I wrong?

Glad I am not working in YOUR state........NOT worth my time for $ 500.00 bucks.......a DIYer maybe..not a REAL contractor...

Try about $ 900 to $ 1,500 bucks.........and depending on the amount of work....5-6 hours.....



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