floor outlet receptacle

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

David, first off, chill the hell out!

Explain the above quote then. I must be confused by your ambiguosity.
It sounds like you would write up any floor receptacle.

You're the one with the attitude there, Buddy. I'm a happy individual.

There's no ambiguosity whatsoever, you simply have to open your eyes and use your brain and look a little further on down into the thread, I clearly stated this....

If the receptacle is not protected in any way, I write it up. This is one of many protective covers that I'd like to see.

I did state

I recommend (to my clients) that all horizontal floor receptacles be terminated and capped. When I do find these, there's only one or two in the house.

because I've never ran into a protected receptacle...Period.

[Speedy Petey]

Originally Posted by dvalley

You're the one with the attitude there, Buddy. I'm a happy individual.

Whatever Dave. Obviously you need to open your eyes and use your brain as well I guess.
You are confusing disagreement with attitude. There IS a difference.

Originally Posted by dvalley

because I've never ran into a protected receptacle...Period.

Which is odd. I don't think I've ever seen a floor receptacle without a floor cover.
Must be a location thing.

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

"No point along a wall is more than 6' from a receptacle."
This DOES NOT mean the receptacles must be 6' apart. It means they can be 12' apart.
Point to a spot on the wall. There must be a receptacle within 6' of your finger, in either direction.

It seems a lot of people misinterpret that.

[Speedy Petey]

Originally Posted by lkage

It seems a lot of people misinterpret that.

I find that as well. I really do wish they would re-word that paragraph of the code, or at least clarify a bit.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Some of us must really like to write things up. 98% of the time when I see these they're in the middle of a good sized room AND the furniture placement is such that there will be a light or couch, end table, etc over them.

They're a convenience so the occupants can place their furniture, lights in a reasonable arrangement AND not be stringing extension cords all across the floor where they REALLY become a trip hazard.

[William Warner]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Which is odd. I don't think I've ever seen a floor receptacle without a floor cover.
Must be a location thing.

Here you go from an inspection last week.

[Speedy Petey]

Write it up!

Of course it happens. Like I said, I just can't remember the last time I saw that.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by wwarner

Here you go from an inspection last week.Attachment 11087

Thank you William. This is the only type I find on a regular basis. That's why I write them up.

[Michael Larson]

Well Duh!

Speedy is an electrician who knows how to install them correctly. That's what he sees.

Most of the rest of us here are HIs who see the the results of Home Owner Harry NOT hiring a qualified electrician or bothering to find out the what correct way to install them is. That's what we see.

So let's all just realize we come at this issue from different perspectives.

No need for all the acrimony generated here.

[smcarthur]

Originally Posted by dvalley

I recommend (to my clients) that all horizontal floor receptacles be terminated and capped. When I do find these, there's only one or two in the house.

The only problem that I see with that statement is that sometimes a floor receptacle is the only means to satisfy the 6' rule for receptacle spacing, say for instance on a balcony with 15' of railing. The railing counts as wall space and must be provided with properly spaced receptacles to meet code requirements.

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Frank, I am surprised with all your years of experience you still do not understand this.

"No point along a wall is more than 6' from a receptacle."
This DOES NOT mean the receptacles must be 6' apart. It means they can be 12' apart.
Point to a spot on the wall. There must be a receptacle within 6' of your finger, in either direction.

Jesus, Mary & Joseph!
YES I AM CLEAR ON THE REQUIRED SPACING OF THE RECEPTACLES.
It is you who does not either understand or who cannot read! The Codes are very clear on this issue and I thought that by posting them it would it any and all speculation.

THERE IS NO CONFUSION ON MY PART! SEE POSTS #17, 25. & 27!

WORTH REPEATING!

2006 international residential code for one and two family dwellings
E3801.2.1 Spacing.
Receptacles shall be installed so that no point measured horizontally along the floor line in any wall space is more than 6 feet (1829 mm), from a receptacle outlet.
E3801.2.2 Wall space.
As used in this section, a wall space shall include the following:
1. Any space that is 2 feet (610 mm) or more in width, (including space measured around corners), and that is unbroken along the floor line by doorways, fireplaces, and similar openings.
2. The space occupied by fixed panels in exterior walls, excluding sliding panels.
3. The space created by fixed room dividers such as railings and freestanding bar-type counters
E3801.2.3 Floor receptacles.
Receptacle outlets in floors shall not be counted as part of the required number of receptacle outlets except where located within 18 inches (457 mm) of the wall.


From the information that we have gathered here this floor receptacle is nothing more than a "convenience receptacle". The picture clearly shows that it is covered and thus supposedly protected.
I am sure that there will be many that come up with their "what if" scenarios but then again all of this debate is meaningless and serves no useful purpose.

[Speedy Petey]

Wow Frank. There is medicine to help you stay calm in these situations.


So botom line. Regardless of the exact wording of the code, how far apart can receptacles be in a residential bedroom installation?

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Wow Frank. There is medicine to help you stay calm in these situations.
ROTFLMAO!


So botom line. Regardless of the exact wording of the code, how far apart can receptacles be in a residential bedroom installation?

WOW!
After all of these years in the business and you still don't know this!

READ THIS!
E3801.2.1 Spacing.
Receptacles shall be installed so that no point measured horizontally along the floor line in any wall space is more than 6 feet (1829 mm), from a receptacle outlet.

[Michael Larson]

What we have here is a failure to communicate.
I went back and read the thread so I hope I have this right.

Speedy and Frank C. are both correct in what they say.

Let me restate the situation.

The floor outlets in question are more than 2 ft away from the wall so they can not be counted for the within 6 ft. rule along a wall space.

They are not in the picture so to speak and are as Frank stated convenience outlets.

Can we all just get along now??

[Frank M. Carrio, CMI]

Hey Speedy!
I have better things to do, and this "Good natured bantering" is not serving any useful purpose so I am signing off on this thread.