GFCI breaker

[Al D. Bolt]

Is this GFCI breaker wiring OK?

[Speedy Petey]

I have seen GFI breakers that have two tails. One for the line neutral connection to the bar, and another to splice to the load neutral.

Did you follow both wires? I don't see a screw for the load neutral.

[Al D. Bolt]

My concern was the neutral and tail in the same slot on the breaker.

[Speedy Petey]

Originally Posted by abolt

My concern was the neutral and tail in the same slot on the breaker.

It's manufactured that way. They are not under a screw.
They are both factory tails.

[Marc D. Shunk]

One of those tails is white (line) and one is white with a black stripe (load).

Looks like rust discoloration on the breaker. Water infiltration? Condensation? Damp ambient?

[Speedy Petey]

Originally Posted by Marc D. Shunk

Looks like rust discoloration on the breaker. Water infiltration? Condensation? Damp ambient?

Marc, do you mean the brown spots? To me that looks like (factory) epoxy to seal the unused holes in the breaker.

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Marc, do you mean the brown spots? To me that looks like (factory) epoxy to seal the unused holes in the breaker.

Yeah, that's what I was seeing. Looks like rust blobs to me. I've only seen maybe a half-dozen of this style GFCI ever, so epoxy didn't enter my mind. On second look, that's what it seems to be; epoxy.

Say, do you recognize the brand? I don't. Late 70's GE would be my guess.

[Speedy Petey]

ITE Gould. I'd say mid-late 80's.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

lol...the only problem I see is....

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by pabernathy

lol...the only problem I see is....

I call those out on 90% of the homes I inspect.

I'm getting tired of explaining why they neutrals need to be separated and why only one per screw.

[Michael W. Gault]

Originally Posted by dvalley

I call those out on 90% of the homes I inspect.

I'm getting tired of explaining why they neutrals need to be separated and why only one per screw.

You and me both, brutha'

[Paul W. Abernathy]

lol...thats why you set up a "PRE" done verbiage in your reports...one click...whamo....don't need to personally explain it again....

[Paul W. Abernathy]

You know....Speedy made a good educational point here that I would LOVE Marc and Greg and Peter as well as others to chime in on for sake of...well.....because I am waiting to fly to florida and hell I like typing.

What if that GFCI pictured ( which does have the older style two legs for the grounded conductor ) did not have a pigtail on the grounded conductor coming back from the 120V branch...and both the white and the white with black stripe were placed onto the grounded buss bar.....

Do you think it would possible have an effect on the GFCI breaker or not....and if you do not think so....why is that now they all feed through the breaker first before going to the grounded bussbar.....

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by pabernathy

lol...thats why you set up a "PRE" done verbiage in your reports...one click...whamo....don't need to personally explain it again....

You can have all the boiler plate verbiage you want on your report, but you're still going to continuously get the majority of your clients asking "Why".

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have my client's walk right next to me and I talk them through the entire inspection on all of my inspections. They have lots of questions and I always supply them with the exact information they are seeking.

Answering my client's questions is my passion.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Ahhh....good point...

I was kinda refering to the report only having to explain it but you are right...many times they are right up in your face wanting to know so yep it is good to know why it is a problem.

Hey I got an idea...do a pre-recorded message on a digital recorder and play it for them while you keep on inspecting..thehehehe...