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Old 6/11/10, 8:16 PM
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Here's one for you. This is just for discussion. I'm not looking for an "answer."

This receptacle is in a bedroom. Should it include GFCI protection? The NEC does not require it here.

There's more here than meets the eye.
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Old 6/11/10, 8:22 PM
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OK I will take a guess.
Was it an add on and wired in to exterior circuit outlet on other side?
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Old 6/11/10, 8:26 PM
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Hi Jeff

If what looks like brown staining at the window sill is moisture I'd say add a GFCI---

Or if that is a Pool in back (hard to see) and someone ran an extension cord out the window, may want a GFCI---

Or if that Chair is actually an Aquarium disguised as a Chair, I'd say add a GFCI--- --

Hope all is well....!
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Old 6/11/10, 8:29 PM
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OK I will take a guess.
Was it an add on and wired in to exterior circuit outlet on other side?
If it is, then is the exterior outlet a GFCI and is this interior outlet downstream? If yes to both then this outlet is protected.



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Old 6/11/10, 8:38 PM
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Is that a spa in the adjacent bathroom I can't see through the blinds? If so yes, if not, well you tell me.
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Old 6/11/10, 8:43 PM
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I say Brian got it. Looks like a tile or stone deck under the blinds, so I am guessing this is a jacuzzi tub beyond the blinds.



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Old 6/11/10, 8:45 PM
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next photo please...what is behind the blinds..hummm
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Old 6/11/10, 8:54 PM
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Is that a spa in the adjacent bathroom I can't see through the blinds? If so yes, if not, well you tell me.
Brian has my guess also...

Yes It needs a GFCI outlet, a Main Disconnect, and some sort of Grippable Rail.

And after further review the entire area looks slippery too, recommend Velcro...
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Old 6/11/10, 8:59 PM
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Here's the rest of the photo. . .
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Good one Jeff, never would have guessed that was a jacuzzi behind door #3
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Good fun! More please



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Default Re: GFCI Required?

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Here's the rest of the photo. . .
I this a hydromassage tub? If so GFCI protection is required for that receptacle. If not in a bathroom and not a hydromassage tub no GFCI protection is required. From the 2008 NEC:

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680.71 Protection.
Hydromassage bathtubs and their associated electrical components shall be on an individual branch circuit(s) and protected by a readily accessible ground-fault circuit interrupter. All 125-volt, single-phase receptacles not exceeding 30 amperes and located within 1.83 m (6 ft) measured horizontally of the inside walls of a hydromassage tub shall be protected by a ground-fault circuit interrupter.
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Old 6/11/10, 11:21 PM
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Nope. Just a standard tub.



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