GFCIs for garbage disposals?

[Jim Port]

As Mr. Pope has said there is no need for a GFI for the disposal from a NEC standpoint.

[Michael Larson]

Those who desire to recommend GFCIs were they are not called for may wish to reconsider their take on this issue as there is little added safety in providing a GFCI for a garbage disposal.

A direct wire or grounded receptacle are more than sufficient.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by rlondon

So I'm trying to find out if garbage disposals should be connected to GFCIs. It seems from a quick internet search that the answer is no, but take a look at the NEC code:


"All receptacles serving kitchen counter tops or within 6 feet of any sink shall have GFCI rotection. 2002 NEC 210.8"Isn't that a firm, "yes"? Unless, of course, your disposal is more than six feet from the sink.

Cheers

Rob

Think here.......

Is the Garbage Disposal receptacle serving the countertop?- NO
Is the receptacle more than 12" down from the countertop surface? - Probably Yes

Now since you are using the 2002 NEC, Where exactly does it say serving the "Kitchen" countertops. Let's look at the NEC 2002 Mind You )

210.8(A)(6) Kitchens

— where the receptacles are installed to serve
the countertop surfaces.

Sorry as I dont see anything about the 6' in that section. Maybe you are refering to wet bars, lets look....

210.8(A)(7) Wet bar sinks

— where the receptacles are installed to
serve the countertop surfaces and are located within 1.8
m (6 ft) of the outside edge of the wet bar sink.

So since you said nothing about wet bars we wont use 210.8(A)(7) at all and since the garage disposal is not serving any countertop at all then the answer is NO to your question.

[Nick Gromicko]

Michale writes:

We used to have electricians come by and answer this type of question but alas no more since moderation happened

Huh?

This message board isn't moderated. Where did you hear that?

Members aren't moderated at all.
Registered non-members who post for a while have their posts go right up as if they were members.
Electricians answering this type of question aren't moderated.

The only small, unique group that could possibly be considered to be moderated would be a non-member who attempts to post something so offensive that none of the moderators (who have no control over members and no control over each other and do not include a single staffer) ALL agree unanimously to prevent the post from being seen. That's not moderation.

The number of posts that fall in that rare latter category constitute 0.01% (1/10,000th) of all posts.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Michale writes:

Huh?

This message board isn't moderated. Where did you hear that?

Members aren't moderated at all. Technically impossible.
Registered non-members who post for a while aren't moderated.
Electricians answering this type of question aren't moderated.

The only small, unique group that could possibly be considered to be moderated would be a non-member who attempts to post something so offensive that none of the message board moderators (who have no control over non-members and no control over each other) ALL agree unanimously to prevent the post from going up.

Yes it is moderated in that posts from non members must be approved by a moderator.

Very few non members visit here anymore and some have expressed why. The delay in getting their post approved is only part of the problem.

[Nick Gromicko]

The few non-members who won't post because they initially have to wait a bit for their posts to become visible apparently has helped the message board. Posts per day are way up since the new message board rules took effect, and I can prove it if you want me to.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Most users ever online was 1,315, 6/20/07 at 6:41 PM

Have at it Nick

[Jim Port]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Michale writes: Huh?

This message board isn't moderated. Where did you hear that?

Members aren't moderated at all.
Registered non-members who post for a while have their posts go right up as if they were members.
Electricians answering this type of question aren't moderated.

.

Got to disagree with this Nick,

I have been here for months and still have to wait until my posts are approved. I have asked Chris several times for access and not heard anything back. Marcel was also going to check into this and I have not heard from him either.

Since the moderation of non-members has started the only other electrician I know from other forums that contributes here is Paul A. I have not seen MDShunk here is quite a while.

[Jim Port]

Nick,

I need to correct something in my last post about being a member here for months. It should be changed to years. My join date was July 07.

[Michael Larson]

Currently Active Users: 45 (45 registered users and 0 guests)

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I think it is the thin mountain air that makes Nick have these delusional episodes, Michael. Heck, he did not realize NACHI gets slandered, except in his home state of Pennsylvania, until it happened on his mountain in Denver. I have a lot of respect for Nick but he needs to climb off that mountain and realize what is going on. The declining visits to the message board is just the tip of the iceberg. Sad but true.

[Nick Gromicko]

Oh I don't think I have data for visits. All I know is # of posts per day have been way up this year and hits have been way up (I have that data). I struggle to imagine how #of posts per day can be up and hits can be up, but # of visitors could be down. Visitors on the bottom of the message board = registered visitors, not viewers/readers. The technical forums are way up.