InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > Specific Inspection Topics > Electrical Inspections

Notices

Electrical Inspections Contains discussions about electrical systems. This includes receptacles, panels, wiring, etc.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 5/19/06, 1:22 AM
Kenton H. Shepard, CMI's Avatar
Kenton H. Shepard, CMI Kenton H. Shepard, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 3,407
Send a message via ICQ to kshepard
Default Grounding between bus bars in a Cutler-Hammer main panel

200 amp Cutler-Hammer main service panel.
The neutral bus bar was bonded to the upper grounding bus bar which was bonded to the box by a strap... but not connected to the lower grounding bus bar (except by the metal box).

The lower grounding bus bar had a grounding electrode that disappeared down the service entrance, hopefully to a driven rod or equal somewhere.

Shouldn't the lower grounding bus bar which was connected to the grounding electrode have been connected to the upper grounding bus bar by something more than the metal box? Like a #4 copper wire?

Last edited by kshepard; 10/2/08 at 2:40 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 5/19/06, 11:55 AM
Jeffrey R. Pope's Avatar
Jeffrey R. Pope Jeffrey R. Pope is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 7,760
Default Re: Grounding between bus bars in a Cutler-Hammer main panel

This is a common method and is fairly standard.

This type of panel can be used as a load side panel (sub panel) by removing the bonding straps from the neutral bus bars.



IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ®
Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
Santa Clarita Home Inspection
http://www.MyInspector.net


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 5/19/06, 2:58 PM
Kenton H. Shepard, CMI's Avatar
Kenton H. Shepard, CMI Kenton H. Shepard, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 3,407
Send a message via ICQ to kshepard
Default Re: Grounding between bus bars in a Cutler-Hammer main panel

Thanks Jeff.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 5/19/06, 10:03 PM
Greg Fretwell Greg Fretwell is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Estero Florida
Posts: 1,798
Please Note: Greg Fretwell is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Grounding between bus bars in a Cutler-Hammer main panel

It is legal to use the "screwed to the can" busbar for the grounds but don't put the neutrals there, even in the service disconnect enclosure, unless there is a 250.66 jumper to the bar where the neutral from the utility resides.
You can probably get a code fight going but there is ample reason to say no.
Personally I like to loop a #4 through all the supplimental bus bars and back to the neutral bar on a service panel before I start loading wire in there.
You probably have a piece you cut off the GEC anyway.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"UFER" Ground? see last paragraph. jtedesco1 Electrical Inspections 19 8/23/11 4:56 PM
Sq D 200 amp panel with Cutler Hammer Breaker lfoster Electrical Inspections 7 6/28/07 11:06 PM
Metal Rigid or PVC Rigid what is code bpotts Electrical Inspections 5 12/4/06 3:40 PM
Bad electrical problem Pest Guy Electrical Inspections 4 1/20/06 10:26 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 1:59 PM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts