Homemade 240 volt

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by minwards

all of this input is great, my eyes hurt from squinting trying to see it all. i still wonder if both white and black wire are delivering hot on the bottom and neutral ...well shucks we got a ground, would this not work? this would provide both fused protection and isolation for a double tap 240 on top. ....right? what do you say....we know its not 'right' but would it work? beddie bye time in MN.....input welcome. roy thanks for invite if im still flabbergasted tomorrow i will be sending number, would be cool to meet you either way
mike in MN

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Look forward to talking to you I have free calling to all of USA and Canada.. TTYL... Roy

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by minwards

white and black wire are delivering hot on the bottom and neutral ...

The white wire at bottom is not neutral, it's hot and should be marked with black tape to indicate it is.

well shucks we got a ground, would this not work? this would provide both fused protection and isolation for a double tap 240 on top. ....right?

No, wrong.

[Robert Meier]

Originally Posted by minwards

all of this input is great, my eyes hurt from squinting trying to see it all. i still wonder if both white and black wire are delivering hot on the bottom and neutral ...well shucks we got a ground, would this not work? this would provide both fused protection and isolation for a double tap 240 on top. ....right? what do you say....we know its not 'right' but would it work? beddie bye time in MN.....input welcome. roy thanks for invite if im still flabbergasted tomorrow i will be sending number, would be cool to meet you either way
mike in MN

Unless they've fused the neutral there is no neutral in this setup. Did you measure the voltage with a meter to determine if this is 120 volts or 240 volts?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Robert Meier

Unless they've fused the neutral there is no neutral in this setup. Did you measure the voltage with a meter to determine if this is 120 volts or 240 volts?

WOW! fused nuetraal brings back memories .
I think it has been over 50 years since I saw one of them..
. it was in my Wifes dads place .
The only home I ever saw with Real Cinder blocks
..wish I had a picture . Roy

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Originally Posted by rcooke

(1)Lets see obsolete box
(2) twin taps on feed wire
(3) Line going out from the twin tap is not protected at this disconnect and also can not be isolated by shutting of the switch .
White wires used as a hot should be Taped Black .

Nice call Roy. Took me a couple of seconds to see the white needing tape and the double taps. Dam eyes are going on me.
I understand now about one of the double taped Branch circuits still electrified even if the handle is down.Nice.

[Robert Meier]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Nice call Roy. Took me a couple of seconds to see the white needing tape and the double taps. Dam eyes are going on me.
I understand now about one of the double taped Branch circuits may be still electrified even if one line is shut.
Nice.

Maybe they wanted it that way. Remove the double tap and make a splice and it's probably code compliant.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Originally Posted by Robert Meier

Maybe they wanted it that way. Remove the double tap and make a splice and it's probably code compliant.