What if this was found in a dwelling?

[Karl E. Gerhauser]

If I follow Oregon SOP I would be sure to notice it as I try to stick my tester in it. Help my tester won't fit!!!!!

[Karl E. Gerhauser]

Hey Marc, your PM box is full.

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by Greg Fretwell

Why so much Marc. A Leviton 5842 (the commercial grade, 20a model 120/240 receptacle) is only 7 bucks or so from the online guys. You have some 12/3 and a 2 pole breaker vs 12/2 and a single pole.

Huh? Are you seriously asking me how an install price is derived? Were you an employee during your working years or a business owner? I think I know the answer to that.

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by kgerhauser

Hey Marc, your PM box is full.

Yeah, I like it better that way.

[Greg Fretwell]

I priced out contracts for IBM. It was parts+labor+risk with the profit added in parts price and labor price before I got them.
I don't see the labor in a 120/240 being that much more and the parts are not that much more expensive. I guess the question is, how much would this be vs a regular 120v 20a circuit?

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by Greg Fretwell

I priced out contracts for IBM. It was parts+labor+risk with the profit added in parts price and labor price before I got them.
I don't see the labor in a 120/240 being that much more and the parts are not that much more expensive. I guess the question is, how much would this be vs a regular 120v 20a circuit?

About 40 dollars.

[Greg Fretwell]

Considering the cost of copper these days that is not bad

[Karl E. Gerhauser]

Originally Posted by Marc D. Shunk

The only time I've seen those receptacles has been for under-window receptacles installed in the 60's. I suppose they were for either a 110 or 220 window air conditioner? In any event, it's a moot point nowadays, since nobody will be installing them new. My price book says that I've have to charge almost 200 bucks to put one in. I suppose a home inspector could run into one every once in a while, but unless you've have a sharp eye, you might not realize that the other half of the duplex is a 240V arrangement. Something to keep in the back of your mind.

Ok Marc, I was kinda joking at the time with my responce about "needing a keen eye to notice the 220 side", Oregon SOP regiures testing of all accessible outlets. I also push the GFCI button on all Kit, bath, garage and exterior outlets. I thought most inspectors did the same. I just read some new posts about GFCI and found out that is not the case.

[Marc Benz]

not only found right next to one of the window [ where the window shaker will be located ] and once a while in apartment complex they have that set up so they use the big arse portable heater. and also it will show up once a while in the resdentail garage however pretty common in commercal location espceally they run kingkong floor buffer that run on 240v.

in my old days in the school i did see them in the hallway where they have dual voltage repectale and yeah i did ran the kingkong buffer dang they are good arm westler lol

Merci,Marc

[Greg Fretwell]

If you are wrastling a floor buffer you are doing it wrong. You should be able to do it with two fingers. You don't horse it around, you fly it.

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by Greg Fretwell

If you are wrastling a floor buffer you are doing it wrong. You should be able to do it with two fingers. You don't horse it around, you fly it.

You'll have to excuse an electrician for not having janitorial skills. Everyone knows electricians don't clean up.

[klott]

Originally Posted by jtedesco1

Have you ever found this type of installation in a dwelling?

Many times.

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by klott

Many times.

Where do you typically find them within the home?

[wward]

not down here, yet anyway

[Greg Fretwell]

Marc, my floor buffer experience is military. We didn't really use our toothbrushes to make that "mirror shine" on the floor.