I'm guessing this is a code violation???

[jjackson3]

All of these wirenuts in the panel can't be allowed by the 06 IRC but i can't find anything in there. Any ideas what specific section it's in? if not how should i word this discrepancy in the report?

[Ted Allen]

Wow, that's a mess.
However, it looks like the original contractor

F'ed

up on his home runs or the panel was moved, regardless, wire nut's are allowed in an enclosure such as a panel and it is OK by code as to the best of my memory.

I would recommend A licenced sparky come out and check it just in case there are loose nuts etc.

I would like to see the rest of the panel. Got a pic of the bottom half?

[jjackson3]

Thanks for the quick reply! and yes here's the bottom half...

[Ted Allen]

That seems OK. That wire in the top right seems a little out of hand though.. To much copper showing IMO..

Hmm, I see a spot or two were there are 2 or more ground wires under one lug.......... Code says otherwise... Report should say these things with NO code reference. Consult a licenced and qualified electrician for further examination and recommendations for repairs ... Or something like that..

[jkogel]

Some authorities may object to bundling all those wires with a zap strap on the left side. This can lead to a buildup of heat.
I'd want the grounds checked if that was my place, the others would be self evident.
If this is new construction it is indeed a f#$%up. If it's an older house, it's a panel upgrade, may be excusable.

John Kogel
www.allsafehome.ca

[jjackson3]

Much thanks Tallen

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jjackson3

Much thanks Tallen

You are most welcome. I have not had the pleasure of helping anyone on this board for quite some time.

[jjackson3]

yup new construction....thanks for the post!

[Marc D. Shunk]

Those wirenuts are 100% legal in that panel, safe, and a very common sight to see.

[Speedy Petey]

Originally Posted by tallen

Hmm, I see a spot or two were there are 2 or more ground wires under one lug.......... Code says otherwise...

Actually code says that is fine. It's neutrals that must be alone in each hole.
Most modern panels can accept up to three grounds of the same size per hole.

[Joe Farsetta]

Wires can be spliced in a panel, providing that the termination is inside the panel. So long as adequate space exists, it is absolutely permissible.

[Jim Port]

This could be an issue where some crackhead cut all the copper out of the panel to sell for scrap.

[Andrew Cox]

Originally Posted by tallen

Wow, that's a mess.

I would recommend A licenced sparky come out and check it just in case there are loose nuts etc.

If we called out a sparky for all the loose nuts - they'd be so busy here on the message board, wouldn't get any work done!

[GARY R. EVANS]

Jim I think you've got it right somebody ripped off the wire and the electrician did not want to rerun the home runs again. The NEC allows splices in a panel to fill up to 75% of the cross-sectional area as long as the wires terminate in the panel and are not just feeding through 312-8 NEC. Looks bad but legal.

[Darren Spencer]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

Wires can be spliced in a panel, providing that the termination is inside the panel. So long as adequate space exists, it is absolutely permissible.

...just not used as a junction. Junctions are not permitted.