Inexpericense will get you KILLED

[cbottger]

This was from this morning see the male plug hanging by the middle screw hole on the dead front. My 40 years of experience working high voltage HVAC saved my life today. I treat all electrical as if it has power applied even male plugs when in see them going into a panel.

This apparently was used last winter for a backup generator to back feed the main panel. The dumbA** just unplugged from the generator and left everything connected and when the power came back on the male plug was still hot no telling how long it has been hanging there. I can just picture someone grabbing that male plug to move it out of the way

[Thomas H. Dietrich]

Generator was running?

tom

P.S. Since I have a knack for finding energized junction boxes, I went out and got EH rated shoes.

[W. Michael Chris]

Charley, thanks for sharing, and I'm glad you're still with us . . . I'm sure it will help many of us to be always remember to be careful and trust nothing when it comes to electricity.

[cbottger]

Generator was running?

No not since the last ice storm over a year ago

[Bruce A. King]

Originally Posted by tdietrich1

Generator was running?

The bottom left breaker looks like the generator input point.
The cable shown in the picture most likely goes into the wall under the pictured area and into that breaker.

A 30 amp female outlet is needed in the wall to obtain a "poor mans generator hookup" not a long hot cable.

[cbottger]

Th

e bottom left breaker looks like the generator input point.
The cable shown in the picture most likely goes into the wall under the pictured area and into that breaker.

That is correct there was a A/C type pull out disconnect just out of the picture below the panel that is what made me check for power.

[Speedy Petey]

Charley, may I please use those photos? They are GREAT example to the idiots who use these suicide cords and how unsafe they are.

All I ever hear is "I'll be careful........"
Obviously someone was NOT so careful!

[cbottger]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Charley, may I please use those photos? They are GREAT example to the idiots who use these suicide cords and how unsafe they are.

All I ever hear is "I'll be careful........"
Obviously someone was NOT so careful!

Go for it by all means

[W. Michael Chris]

Originally Posted by cbottger

That is correct there was a A/C type pull out disconnect just out of the picture below the panel that is what made me check for power.

Do you have a picture of the pull-out? I've learned much from this post, thanks!

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by wchris1

Do you have a picture of the pull-out? I've learned much from this post, thanks!

For example...

http://www.sealhardware.com/detail.asp?sku=2264828

[W. Michael Chris]

Thanks Larry! I was thinking along the line the pullout being the cable itself was in the wall/on the wall somehow, thanks for the clarification.

[cgoyette]

Charley,

Your to mean to be killed by mear electricity! It would take the Hoover dam full electrical output to send you to the grave! That Homeowner special would only have tickled you a bit!


Seriously electricity is dangerous and needs to be respected, can see it cant smell it and its sneaky.

Thanks for sharing,
Curt

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Exactly why NACHI needs to ensure everyone is aware of electrical issues and hazards...and frankly why educators do what we do.....hoping to keep you safe and going home at night....safe.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by cbottger

This was from this morning see the male plug hanging by the middle screw hole on the dead front. My 40 years of experience working high voltage HVAC saved my life today. I treat all electrical as if it has power applied even male plugs when in see them going into a panel.

This apparently was used last winter for a backup generator to back feed the main panel. The dumbA** just unplugged from the generator and left everything connected and when the power came back on the male plug was still hot no telling how long it has been hanging there. I can just picture someone grabbing that male plug to move it out of the way

Thanks for sharing Charley!! I will definitely keep on eye out for connections like this in the future. And I'm happy to hear that you "Survived" the Inspection.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Charley, may I please use those photos? They are GREAT example to the idiots who use these suicide cords and how unsafe they are.

All I ever hear is "I'll be careful........"
Obviously someone was NOT so careful!

MEE TOO? PLEEEASE?