Interior GFCI Poll

[Gerry Pallotta]

Richard
I know everyone reports in their own way. I am not here to change your mind or anyone elses. Like I could anyway. I am just explaining what and why I would do it.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by gpallotta

I know everyone reports in their own way. I am not here to change your mind or anyone elses. like Could anyway. I am just explaining what and why I would do it.

No problem. Carry on.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Bob, you can play the imagination game all day but it doesn't change the facts. Sorry.

Recommend away and be prepared to pay.

Mike, you will be the one paying when your client gets shocked.

Protection of People and property .

[Gerry Pallotta]

Michael.
I'll give you this point.
I have never had it happen yet but your right it can happen.

[rmaday]

Bob, after reading the chart, the wet bar does not apply here.

We can assume that by including a provision for wet bar, that the wet bar is not in the kitchen. IMO the wet bar, listed in the chart, is as I described, earlier.

[Gerry Pallotta]

Dang don't now why my post won't delete.

[Gerry Pallotta]

finally.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by rmaday

I made the sound, and still, that 6-8 inch space at the top of the wall wouldn't fit a TV. If anything was to be on top of there (and plugged in), I'd probably use the closer outlet (on the kitchen side of the wall).

That counter is at least 12 inch and a perfect spot for a small TV to look at from in that kitchen area.

They would plug it in there to avoid having the cord exess, drag on the counter and be in the way.

I used to put them there all the time for customers.

[rmaday]

I did look again and my father-in-law has that same setup in the kitchen/dining area. He uses that outlet for a stereo.

Bob, we can't protect people from themselves.

BTW I still contend that is a 6-8in cap.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by relliott

Mike, you will be the one paying when your client gets shocked.

Protection of People and property .

Based on what Bob?

I don't state code to my clients but that doesn't mean I don't know it.

By your scenario we should all be recommending that all outlets be changed to GFCIs to prevent stupidity from causing harm.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Based on what Bob?

I don't state code to my clients but that doesn't mean I don't know it.

By your scenario we should all be recommending that all outlets be changed to GFCIs to prevent stupidity from causing harm.

Funny you should bring that up since in the future all outlets WILL have to be AFCI or GFCI protected

I guess you are still mad that we do not see porcelain sockets with metal pull chains everywhere.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by relliott

Funny you should bring that up since in the future all outlets WILL have to be AFCI or GFCI protected

An AFCI is not the same as a GFCI.

They are for entirely different hazards.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by mlarson

An AFCI is not the same as a GFCI.

They are for entirely different hazards.

Mike you are changing the subject, by micro criticizing my sentence.
Learn to see the whole picture.

Doddle do-doddle do.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by rmaday

Just because it was easier, doesn't make it right.

Would you call out a bathroom with no outlet?

Yes

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Yes

What if it was an outhouse?