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Old 9/22/06, 5:42 AM
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Is there anywhere in the IRC book that states about power strip cords, being used as outlets? This is above a bathroom sink. Iam looking for the proper wording to use.

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Is it GFCI protected?



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Yes it is GFCI protected.



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IRC E3801.6 says the outlet must be within 36" of the bathroom sink. I can't find anything that restricts an outlet being located directly above the sink. If the outlet (not the power strip) is W/I 36" of the sink and GFCI protected, I can't think of anything that restricts the power strips use and I can't think of a hazard.



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Old 9/23/06, 8:37 AM
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Gary,
I looked but couldn't find anything in the IRC. But isn't this really just an extension cord with multiple receptacles. Based on what I have read here, those aren't allowed to be used as permanent wiring.



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Old 9/23/06, 8:54 AM
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Gary,
I looked but couldn't find anything in the IRC. But isn't this really just an extension cord with multiple receptacles. Based on what I have read here, those aren't allowed to be used as permanent wiring.
You better not look under most home Computer desks .

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Why do you think this is permanent wiring
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Why do you think this is permanent wiring
I agree. If this is plugged into a legallly placed GFI protected receptacle I see no problem other than the fact that it is kind of tacky.
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Old 9/23/06, 11:14 AM
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You better not look under most home Computer desks.
I just checked. I have five!
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You better not look under most home Computer desks .

Roy Cooke
Right, especially if there's a leak under the desk !!!!!!!

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UL White Book
following 110.3(B)

Rlocatable Power Taps (XBYS)

Relocatable power taps are not intended to be permanently secured to building structures, tables, work benches or similar structures, nor are they intended to be used as a substitute for fixed wiring. The cords of relocatable power taps are not intended to be routed through walls, windows, ceilings, floors or similar openings.

I would say this picture shows a violation, regardless of what it is plugged into.
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I have a question.
Who considers the little keyhole slots on the back of these things a permanent mount?
I have heard the quote Pierre gave, but I question whether using these keyholes should be considered "permanently" mounted.
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I would not consider ths a violation of the NEC unless it was used in place of a required outlet.
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Old 9/24/06, 7:39 AM
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Greg,
I guess I am looking at it the same way I would an extension cord being used to power a garage door opener. Is that something that can be done? Based on what I have read here, the answer is no.

However, by using the logic applied here, as long as it was plugged into a properly installed, protected, or otherwise code compliant receptacle, then it sounds like it would be ok.

I'll concede to you and Speedy, as I am not an electrician. But what constitutes permanent? Is it the device or fixture? Whether the cord is attached to the structure or not? Expected level/type of use?

Roy, I puposefully avoided looking too closely under and around both my computers when I wrote that.



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