Joe F, update?

[jtedesco1]

rlb

Where do you attend NACHI chapter meetings if any, and were is Frostproof, Florida?

[jtedesco1]

Death by electrons does happen but why is it so hard to kill someone in an electric chair with 1000's of volts??

rlb, sure how would you feel if this happened to someone in your family?

Legislative session passes 150 new laws

150 new laws

Louisville resident Bonnie Lawrence says she felt electricity coming through her 5-year-old son's body when she touched him after he collapsed at a baby sitter's house in 2002.

Isaac was killed after he played in a sprinkler and then touched a metal door on a garage that had been improperly wired without a permit. The contractors weren't indicted, the city couldn't be sued, and Lawrence said she was told repeatedly that her son's death just "fell through the cracks."
"I don't want there to be any more damn cracks," said Lawrence, who spent the last year fighting for a new law toughening penalties for electrical contractors.

"My 5-year-old innocent firstborn child died the way we punish our most heinous criminals," she added. "It makes me sick."

House Bill 28, dubbed "Isaac's Law" and signed last week by Gov. Ernie Fletcher, allows local governments to boost the fines for doing electrical work without a permit to $1,000 for the first offense and $2,000 for subsequent violations from a current maximum of $250.

The new law allows the same potential fines for failure to get an inspection after having electrical work done, and for all other code violations where the penalty is recommended by an electrical inspector.

Isaac's Law is among 149 recently passed bills that Fletcher had signed into law as of Tuesday, along with 25 resolutions. One other bill became law without Fletcher's signature.

A final flurry of legislation is expected to pass when the General Assembly meets for its final three days next week.

Most of those new laws, including Isaac's Law, will take effect in mid-July, 90 days after the legislative session ends.

But nine of the laws took effect immediately, after the legislature attached emergency clauses.

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Robert C. Tackett, an electrical inspector, worked at a building under construction this week on New La Grange Road. The determined efforts of a family whose son was electrocuted spurred the General Assembly to pass a law on electrical permits. (By Bill Luster, The Courier-Journal)

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Isaac Lawrence, above, was electrocuted in 2002. "My 5-year-old innocent firstborn child died the way we punish our most heinous criminals," said his mother, Bonnie Lawrence, below, shown with her husband, Russell, and daughter, Eden, 6. Family members testified for House Bill 28, which increases the penalty for people who fail to get proper permits before doing electrical work.

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[Richard L. Bennett]

On the map try zip code 33843

If a chapter exist more than 6 months I might go to it if it is within one hr of travel time unless it is a two day event and I will stay overnite

Got to remember that like many places in this country are like Frostproof -- out in the sticks -- Major industry in this two traffic light town is OJ and new construction.

Joe your do need to see a shrink -- where I live and what chapter I am a member of is a way out in the woods question

It is almost as bad as your phone call to me in the wee moning hrs a few months ago when I offended you

As a result of that post and your phone call I apologized and pulled my posts

If you are upset about anything that I said let me know and I will pull the posts and apologise

Hope I have answered your questions to your satisfaction


Regards

rlb

[Richard L. Bennett]

Joe

Permits would have not saved the Kid - where was parent supervision and was the parent the person that did not pull the permit or contract a good HI when they bought the home??

Who knows - The kid is dead and a knee jerk law has been passed - will it save a life ----NO

(Joe please sit down and have a chat with someone that you trust)

Knowledge would have --- Do your really think a local city inspector would have found the problem?


Get real -- This is 2006 -- not 2002


We all will die some day -- It is a fact of life

rlb

[jtedesco1]

rlb

Now I am sure ~ that you are just a lonely person who is all alone and have no real reason for being here ~ only to try to break my gonads!

You need to see the shrink and talk about your problems!

I am very sane and healthy, and I only asked about Florida because I usually go there 4-6 times a year. Maybe you could tell my class a bit about electrical safety and that wearing gloves and PPE is for sissies!

You make home inspections?

I wonder sometimes how you come across to others? Everyone of your posts about electrical safety shows that you are not really aware of the possibilities for an accident.

I think I would stay off the suds if I were you ~ it shows ~ and no doubt that I have rattled your cage too, seems that all the 3RD generation boozers get their strength from the bottle or the pills, now please go away and don't bother me anymore.

[jtedesco1]

Originally Posted by rbennett

On the map try zip code 33843

If a chapter exist more than 6 months I might go to it if it is within one hr of travel time unless it is a two day event and I will stay overnite

Got to remember that like many places in this country are like Frostproof -- out in the sticks -- Major industry in this two traffic light town is OJ and new construction.

Joe your do need to see a shrink -- where I live and what chapter I am a member of is a way out in the woods question

It is almost as bad as your phone call to me in the wee moning hrs a few months ago when I offended you

As a result of that post and your phone call I apologized and pulled my posts

If you are upset about anything that I said let me know and I will pull the posts and apologise

Hope I have answered your questions to your satisfaction


Regards

rlb

http://www.33843.com/

Too bad??

[Richard L. Bennett]

Yes you found us

The PD responds after shots are fired -- I think the city requires every one to have at least one gun.

And one can go into the store and leave the truck running to keep the AC working for the dog and come back and see the truck and the dog still there

If not you will see the dog with body parts in his mouth

BTW our city code inspector is a retired HI (The other ORG) not a bad guy other than half the town is ready to kill him -- I expect that he will be terminated in 60 to 90 days from now

One must get real and this town is owned by the OJ industry and that is about three people -- One does not go against the tide

Please get some help


rlb

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Joe Tedesco,

http://feeds.louisvillenews.net/?rid...4308be6320&f=1

Thanks for the Info and Link.

[jtedesco1]

Joe:

My pleasure.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by jtedesco1

Ask Paul or Gerry!

AGAIN.......un called for.........Can't you do ANYTHING other than try to start CRAP.....lol

BUT again i guess it is true if someone REALLY does need to know an TRUE electrical question I guess they have to Ask Paul or Gerry....

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by rbennett

On the map try zip code 33843

If a chapter exist more than 6 months I might go to it if it is within one hr of travel time unless it is a two day event and I will stay overnite

Got to remember that like many places in this country are like Frostproof -- out in the sticks -- Major industry in this two traffic light town is OJ and new construction.

Joe your do need to see a shrink -- where I live and what chapter I am a member of is a way out in the woods question

It is almost as bad as your phone call to me in the wee moning hrs a few months ago when I offended you

As a result of that post and your phone call I apologized and pulled my posts

If you are upset about anything that I said let me know and I will pull the posts and apologise

Hope I have answered your questions to your satisfaction


Regards

rlb

Don't worry RLB....I got those calls also.......So just do me a favor JOE...leave my name out of your posts....PS...I dont DRINK either....

[jtedesco1]

Huh?

[Paul W. Abernathy]

never mind.......not worth it...

[jtedesco1]

What? I thought you were ready to battle again today!

I will look for the answers given to inspection and electrical questions.

Please supply the edition of the code you quote, because the 2005 is with many changes and there may be some differences. I believe in your area the 2002 is still being enforced.

Where is this seminar you will present?

Are you using any slides, or other materials or will you just lecture about the home inspection process. Call Square D for a free Electrical Safety Video and some free danger labels.

Please cool down and act like an Instructor!

Gee, what if someone asks you about the use of Romex for a disposal and says that that is not allowed, what will your answer be?

[Paul W. Abernathy]

"Please cool down and act like an Instructor! " lead by example JOE.....

My answer is to NOT answer you....you have HIDDEN agenda's.....

P.S. You Stated "I think I would stay off the suds if I were you ~ it shows ~ and no doubt that I have rattled your cage too, seems that all the 3RD generation boozers get their strength from the bottle or the pills, now please go away and don't bother me anymore. "

Lead by example Joe.......Lead by example.....

My Presentation is on the steps to a HI's electrical Inspection....NOT a code inspection..Big Difference to HI's....I probably wont give a single CODE reference in the presentation....depends on how I feel.

As for NEC.....we are in 2002.....I LIVE and BREATHE 2002 here.......but I am fully clear on 2005 changes....but again......thats information I don't think you need to know....why concern yourself with everyone elses business...how about minding your own......Round 2....Sure...I am game

Here ya go......REFRESHER for ya...http://www.electrician2.com/2005nec1...iles/frame.htm