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Old 1/6/12, 10:29 AM
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How and/or would you comment on?

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Yes. Outer insulation is damaged and does not extend inside the junction box.



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Also not anchored within 12" of junction box.



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...and how much would you be willing to wager that the metal cover is not bonded to the egc's?



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Odd how they singled out the grounded conductor from the sheathing and routed it into another opening.



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Amateur work for sure. Improper electrical splice in attic. This and any other defects a licensed electrician finds while making this repair needs correcting. Why didn't they use the holes in the box made for the wires to enter?



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...and how much would you be willing to wager that the metal cover is not bonded to the egc's?
Do you have a general statement to cover bonding at metal boxes, metal electrical components, etc. ?
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Do you have a general statement to cover bonding at metal boxes, metal electrical components, etc. ?
It doesn't matter.
"Improper wiring observed at attic junction box(s)."
Call electrician to straighten this and I am sure, other messes in this home!
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It doesn't matter.
"Improper wiring observed at attic junction box(s)."
Call electrician to straighten this and I am sure, other messes in this home!
Got that.
I'm just looking for a general statement for bonding because I'm sure every metal j-box cover/metal boxes doesnt get looked at to check for bonding
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Hey Robert! that sounds exactly what I would say. Is that from your own reports? The only difference is what I would say is certified electrician.



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Hey Robert! that sounds exactly what I would say. Is that from your own reports? The only difference is what I would say is certified electrician.
Must be different in Canada. States license electricians here. They do not certify. Certification usually comes from an educational institution or organization.

With your wording, you are recommending someone that could hold a certification from "Bob's electrical school" but not be licensed to perform the work. In the State of Washington, it is against the law for a home inspector to recommend a non-licensed person for work that requires a license. (Plumbing, Electrical, HVAC, Real estate sales, appraiser, engineer etc.)




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Do you have a general statement to cover bonding at metal boxes, metal electrical components, etc. ?
Not a general statement, no. But, I usually do check most metal boxes (with NM entering the box) to verify bonding.



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Yes Stephen you would be correct that outside the realms of Home Inspection you would say Licensed. I do not agree with the ESA and I cannot tell you why. I can say that no client of mine has said to change it and the reason I use Certified is because I know the individual doing the work is under the wing of a ESA contractor and does not have or need a License just like any apprentice for easy house wiring.



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...and how much would you be willing to wager that the metal cover is not bonded to the egc's?

Is there a code compliant way to bond the metal cover plate with that type of box?
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Not that I'm aware of, but I'd much rather see it somehow connected to the egc, than not connected at all. Replacement with a plastic cover is generally my recommendation.



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