Kitchen light on GFCI

[lprinzi]

Can a kitchen overhead light be on a GFCI circuit? The light wnet out when the GFCI was tripped. Can't find anything in NEC

[Bruce A. King]

Anything can be....
Just would not recommend it on refrigeration circuits due to failure rate of these devices.

[Greg Fretwell]

It can't be on the counter top GFCIs (AKA small appliance circuit)

[Brian E. Kelly]

Greg I have on occasion seen the bathroom light on the GFCI circuit, is that allowed?

[Mike Parks]

1st when was the home built?
2nd was a code "codified" when it was built
3rd so it is not allowed today.

Report it as not to todays standards but no BIG deal.

Sounds like nitpikky BS to me.

If anything I like it being protected by a GFCI. It is 'over' a wet location.

Again that is the chickens..t. that I get called out to say is no big deal.

[Mike Parks]

Bathroom light it depends.

Is it on the same circuit as that 'one' bathroom?

What code (cycle) are you using?

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by Mike Parks

Bathroom light it depends.



Is it on the same circuit as that 'one' bathroom?

What code (cycle) are you using?

Mostly 03 IRC

Hi Mike Thanx, that's kinda what I thought.

I ususlly find it on circa 1950's block home where the only outlet used to be in the light fixture over the sink. After some minor fix and flip electrical updating an outlet is added for all the new fangled gizmos.

[Mike Parks]

Brian

Use the 2005 NEC as your guide.

Unless you, everyone, know what was/is acceptable at any give time you are hanging your neck out there to be CHOPPED off.

Please watch what you say regarding electrical.

At least in Ohio you are NOT required to update anything unless the AHJ says that it is required (my opinion a safety hazard).

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by Mike Parks

Brian

Use the 2005 NEC as your guide.

Unless you, everyone, know what was/is acceptable at any give time you are hanging your neck out there to be CHOPPED off.

Please watch what you say regarding electrical.

At least in Ohio you are NOT required to update anything unless the AHJ says that it is required (my opinion a safety hazard).

I may consider the 05 NEC when Phoenix adopts it.

[lprinzi]

Greg stated above that the overhead light cannot be on the counter small appliance circuits... is there a NEC section for that?

[Mike Parks]

250.52(b)(2) 2005 Nec

[cbuell]

The thing about receptacles and lights being on the same circuit is that if you trip the breaker while using the receptacle you might not want to be in the dark dealing with a defective appliance or whatever. Could be a safety concern in my opinion, regardless of code.

[Mike Parks]

Charles

I agree that is why I put my lights and outlet on different curcuits.

It is not required.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Hey Guys,

Ok....my voice on this...you all know my mouth...

Ok....

1.) The light over the sink on GFCI is not big deal as long as like Greg stated it is not on the counter top circuit.....
2.) GFCI in bathrooms as mike stated CAN run lights as well as long as the circuit to that bathroom is ONLY for that bathroom and the circuit does not leave that bathroom.

Now.....for my opinions on GFCI's.....HI's should always recommend them in the report, the life you SAVE might be your client...

I came back today from a house that was just inspected by a local home inspector....and I am quite sad over it......this house was in bad shape, 30A edison fuses on 14 AWG for bedroom circuits, BX being used as the EGC and replacing the plugs with 3 hole plugs everywhere....again guys..BX is not a EGC......but I am sure everyone knows that by now.

Anyway.......I am going to need to hold a freakin LOCAL class just to make sure crap like this does not get missed again.....even the sub panel was old SE....that was worn to death.....and guess what...(10 ) no ground present plugs that were not even on the report......but had 3 hole plugs in them...

Sad to say...I was their FIXING an emergency electrical issue...not inspecting the house......dang glad of that......found extention cord wire feeding a light in the wall......yep...all this RIGHT in my face....fixing one issue and finding all this obvious other issues...so I asked the read the report....she let me....it was SAD....

OK.....I am done whining.......Where was I....oh yeah...I push GFCI's everywhere and let THEM choose to ignore my suggestions...I can sleep at night knowing I atleast told them...

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Mike Parks

250.52(b)(2) 2005 Nec

What does this code reference for grounding electodes have to do with outlets on GFCI counter circuits??