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Old 5/5/06, 6:45 PM
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Man...Will I am just picturing you bashing us electricians " its Code" like you did in OHIO...lol........I got a picture to post on that....let me see if I can upload it in the next few days...lol



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Old 5/5/06, 7:17 PM
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Not 'bashing', Paul. I would never bash an accomplished professional (as most electricians are). You misunderstand.

Think like a home inspector (In other words, be distrated about those long island ice teas awaiting us at the end of the day!) for a moment.

Local codes are the creation of local politicians, sometimes with the input of educated, experienced, qualified and expert consultants. But politicians are politicians. They have to weigh many sides of every story.
- Developers and builders want to do the minimum possible at the lowest cost.
- Subcontractors want the same. They also don't want to come back and re-do work and not get paid for it (and most won't).
- Buyers want the lowest price, but also want the safest, most trouble free house. And they simply refuse to do their part with regards to regular maintenance and testing (how many laymen actually test their GFCIs every month?)
- Politicians want ot be re-elected.

Because of this, the client will not always be protected like they should be (even from themselves!), yet, they will always look to 'government' to have already given them the needed protection. And when the manure hits the rotating blades, and they find out that they are not protected as they would like to be and they have to dole out mucho dinaro, They will be angry. They will sue. They can't sue the politicans. They can't sue their own RE lawyer. They can't sue the builder or the seller (because it would take too long and they want immediate relief and they wouldn't winn anyway) and they won't accept their own fault. They can't sue the electrician (his defense? "It was code!").

Who is left?

The home inspector.

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Old 5/6/06, 2:36 PM
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Here's what I say:

"The load side equipment panel (sub-panel) in the (insert location here) had neutrals and grounding conductors tied to the same bus bar. Sub-panels are required to have a floating neutral bus and a bonded ground bus. Separation of grounds and neutrals is required to achieve this. This panel box is not installed correctly. "



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Old 5/7/06, 7:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wdecker
Not 'bashing', Paul. I would never bash an accomplished professional (as most electricians are). You misunderstand.
lol...No I didn't WILL.......just bustin your chops fella...thehehehe


Oh wait....you dont like my theheheheheheh...lol...



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