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Default Locations Where Gfci Protection Is Required

Ground-fault circuit interrupters



Accessory buildings, dwelling
units, 210.8(A)(2)
Aircraft hangars, 513.12
Appliances
Drinking fountains, 422.51
High-pressure spray washers,
422.49
Vending machines, 422.51
Basements, dwelling units, unfinished,
210.8(A)(5)
Bathtubs, hydromassage, 680.71
Carnivals, circuses, fairs, and
similar events, 525.23
Definition, Art. 100–I
Electrically operated pool covers,
680.27(B)(2)
Electric signs, portable or mobile,
600.10(C)(2)
Electrified truck parking space
supply equipment,
626.24(D)
Elevators, dumbwaiters, escalators,
moving walks,
platform lifts, and stairway
chairlifts, 620.85
Fixed electric space-heating
equipment cables,
424.44(G)
Fountains, 680.51(A)
Garages, commercial, 511.12
Garages, dwelling units,
210.8(A)(2)
Generators, portable, 445.20
Naturally and artificially made
bodies of water, electrical
equipment for,
682.15
Permitted uses, 210.8, 215.9
Personnel, protection for, 426.32







Pipeline heating, 427.27




Pools and tubs for therapeutic
use, 680.62(A),
680.62(E)
Receptacles, 210.8
Bathrooms, in dwelling units,
210.8(A)(1)
Bathrooms in other than
dwelling units,
210.8(B)(1)
Boathouses, 555.19(B)(1)
Construction sites, at, 590.6
Fountains, 680.57(B), 680.58
Garages, in dwelling units,
210.8(A)(2)
Health care facilities,
517.20(A), 517.21
Kitchens in dwelling units,
210.8(A)(6)
Marinas and boatyards,
555.19(B)(1)
Mobile homes, 550.13(B),
550.32(E)
Outdoors, dwelling units,
210.8(A)(3)
Park trailers, 552.41(C)
Pools, 680.5, 680.6,
680.22(A)(4),
680.22(B), 680.32,
680.62(E)
Recreational vehicles,
551.40(C), 551.41(C)
Replacement, 406.3(D)(2)
Required, 210.8
Rooftops in other than dwelling
units, 210.8(B)
Sensitive electronic equipment,
647.7(A)
Spas and hot tubs, 680.43(A),
680.44
Wet bar sinks, 210.8(A)(7)
Swimming pools,









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Do you have the dates each of those went into effect?



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Reviewing the NEC editions from 1968 on, and searching the index will have that information, Very good question.

I sold most of my old NEC's to Jerry Peck, but maybe the NFPA Library 617-770-3000 can help with that information.

I will bet Mike knows, or will give this assignement to his students, I hope.
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Do you have the dates each of those went into effect?
I know that the book that many home inspectors have "Electrical Inspection of Existing Dwellings" has a chart in it with all those dates. I think that book might be out of print now. It was pretty expensive, as I remember.
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I have a list that I believe came from that book, but it isn't up to date and as inclusive as the locations that Joe posted.



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That list could be updated so we can be sure of the dates, again the index in each code can be a good place for us to start.

Here's another option:

215.9 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel.
Feeders supplying 15- and 20-ampere receptacle branch circuits shall be permitted to be protected by a ground-fault circuit interrupter in lieu of the provisions for such interrupters as specified in 210.8 and 590.6(A).

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[quote=Marc D. Shunk]I know that the book that many home inspectors have "Electrical Inspection of Existing Dwellings" has a chart in it with all those dates. I think that book might be out of print now. It was pretty expensive, as I remember.[/quot

Here is an easy to follow version. http://www.mikeholt.com/documents/ne...ment_page2.pdf
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cutting through the chatter.

When if at all does GFCI need to be on an counter Island .I thought only with in 6 feet.

Some one said they all need it.

Refering to near a kitchen though it should not matter .
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For a few code cycles now in a residence it has been ALL receptacles serving kitchen counters. The "six foot rule" as been gone for a while.

General use wall receptacles do not require GFI protection.
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Ok... serving kitchen counters

What constitutes a kitchen counter since an Island is far away from water?
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I agree. I have done kitchens with isolated sections of counter that were on opposite walls from the sink and totally removed.
GFI's made NO sense whatsoever, but were required.

I don't think there is any denying that an island counter is still a counter though.
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Ok ....
I always figure part of a continuous counter, but will make note.
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Default Re: Locations Where Gfci Protection Is Required

The 210.08(A)(6) rule about GFCIs just says "countertops", there is no reference to sinks or water. They specifically address peninsulas and islands.
Basically if you are barefoot on a ceramic tile floor you might as well be ankle deep in water.

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cutting through the chatter.

When if at all does GFCI need to be on an counter Island .I thought only with in 6 feet.

Some one said they all need it.

Refering to near a kitchen though it should not matter .
They all need it Bob, it turns out that many of the appliances you plug in, in the kitchen have something to do with liquid.
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They all need it Bob, it turns out that many of the appliances you plug in, in the kitchen have something to do with liquid.
Hi all,

it's simpler than that, if the outlet services a horizontal surface in or adjacent to the kitchen it needs to be GFCI.

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