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Old 10/12/06, 4:38 PM
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When you report on loose recepts, (you know, when they are loose in the wall from normal use not falling out) does this comment go to the summary as something that should be repaired or just an FYI?

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Old 10/12/06, 5:29 PM
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Shane,

I report they need to be repaired (tightened) and that automatically goes into the summary.

The fact the receptacle is loose can cause the wires to become loose or come apart, especially the ones which are wired (back-stabbed) fashion.
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Old 10/12/06, 5:33 PM
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When you report on loose recepts, (you know, when they are loose in the wall from normal use not falling out) does this comment go to the summary as something that should be repaired or just an FYI?

Thanks,
Are you referring to the receptacle itself being loose or the tension on the blades and ground pin?

Do you report maintenance issues in your report summary?

Such as:
clogged furnace filters
rain gutters with debris
non working lights
foundation plantings to overgrown
paint defects

I know some of these are rather subjective.
I generally report on defects that materially affect the value of the property in addition to any safety related issues.
These become part of the report summary.

Others may hold differing opinions on this.
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Old 10/12/06, 5:36 PM
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Are you referring to the receptacle itself being loose or the tension on the blades and ground pin?

Do you report maintenance issues in your report summary?

Such as:
clogged furnace filters
rain gutters with debris
non working lights
foundation plantings to overgrown
paint defects

I know some of these are rather subjective.
I generally report on defects that materially affect the value of the property in addition to any safety related issues.
These become part of the report summary.

Others may hold differing opinions on this.
I do the same, I'm not sure if Shane is talking about blades shot or not, but I recommend they replace them.
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Old 10/12/06, 7:16 PM
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Default Re: Loose Receptacles

I was not referring to the blades being. That I feel should just be replaced. I meant just plain loose in the wall.

What I am getting towards here is, I am using Homeguage, and a lot of my summaries are 4+ pages. When you read them, they seam small. Clogged furnace filters, loose recepts, loose countertops, whatever.

Just wanted to see what you all put in the summary, so I started here.

But Dale, you answered my ? Thanks
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Old 10/13/06, 1:38 AM
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Are you referring to the receptacle itself being loose or the tension on the blades and ground pin?

Do you report maintenance issues in your report summary?

Such as:
clogged furnace filters
rain gutters with debris
non working lights
foundation plantings to overgrown
paint defects

I know some of these are rather subjective.
I generally report on defects that materially affect the value of the property in addition to any safety related issues.
These become part of the report summary.

Others may hold differing opinions on this.
I definitely report clogged furnace filters in the body of the report and the summary. A FAU will draw in dirty air from any crack or leaky joint(s). If you have AC as part of your FAU, the dust will coat the evaporator coil and reduce its efficiency enough to make the overall system work harder. The end result is reduced lifetime for the compressor and coil.

Clogged gutters that can't drain water are just asking for problems with open rafter tail rot. I see it all the time. We don't have a real winter here in California, just a lot of rain.
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Old 10/13/06, 1:55 AM
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When you report on loose recepts, (you know, when they are loose in the wall from normal use not falling out) does this comment go to the summary as something that should be repaired or just an FYI?

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Yes.



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I definitely report clogged furnace filters in the body of the report and the summary........
Dale, so do I. They are in the main body of the report as "in need of maintenance".
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are these dangerous
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Old 10/14/06, 2:28 AM
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Dale, so do I. They are in the main body of the report as "in need of maintenance".
How does one maintain a clogged filter? Don't say replace it.

I put it in the summary as a clogged filter is putting undue strain on the system.

I have a blanket statement about replacing filters in the report.



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How does one maintain a clogged filter? .....
Now your just being picky

BTW have your seen the washable type?
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Old 10/15/06, 2:23 AM
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Now your just being picky

BTW have your seen the washable type?
http://www.btr.state.az.us/2006%20Re...0Checklist.pdf

Sorry to hear you are shocked Michael. We are required by the State to report on the condition of the filter here in all of our reports. (items 62 & 68]
So when I find dirty filters I call them out.

Ask some of the HVAC guys here what happens to the efficiency HVAC systems with dirty filters?



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Old 10/15/06, 7:54 AM
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...So when I find dirty filters I call them out. ...
As I do, just not in the summary. It is not a material defect as defined by WI state law.
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Old 10/15/06, 9:36 AM
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I don't think what State you are from makes to much difference to me.

Loose receptacles or wore out blade slots, are all a hazard in my book for a family occupied home.
They go in the summary report as a safety hazard and is usually hi-lighted so it can't be missed while reading the report.

As far a a clogged air filter, if it is clogged, unmaintained, or unwashed as one would say, it is impairing with the proper function of the heating or cooling unit.
I write it up as such.

You can relate a filter to the one on your car, if it is so dirty, your car will not function.

Reminds me of a joke where the brain said to the rest of the Body, he was the Boss. The anatomy part of the body that filters, said he was. The Brain kept insisting he was the Boss so the other anatomy part said OK, and stopped functioning. After two days went by, the Brain was so messed up that no straight thinking would work, and gave up. He said OK, your the Boss. ha. ha.

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As I do, just not in the summary. It is not a material defect as defined by WI state law.
Sorry I do call the filters out it is effecting the heating system and I also call out Humidifiers ( recommend removal) as these to me are a great breeding place for many things. ( look inside a few and WOW!)
Plugs defiantly need Repair or replacing
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