Messy work, but is it wrong?

[Mark A. Timpani, CMI]

This was in a garage yesterday. The wiring is not being covered with dry wall, it just stays like this. This type of workmanship just kills me. It was all over.
Keeping in mind that in Az. romex can be bare above 7 feet, is there anything wrong with this? I would like to call it out but what do I say other than it looks like crap ?

[lagudo]

Work appears to be done by homeowner or handyman and looks unprofessional. If this is what you can see, who knows whats hidden. I'm interested in what others have to say.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by mtimpani

This was in a garage yesterday. The wiring is not being covered with dry wall, it just stays like this. This type of workmanship just kills me. It was all over.
Keeping in mind that in Az. romex can be bare above 7 feet, is there anything wrong with this? I would like to call it out but what do I say other than it looks like crap ?

The wiring for the Garage door is less then professionally done .
Wires under the joist make it impossible to finish the ceiling .
Garage doors should be on their own circuit and not have other cords plugged in to them.
Recommend immediate repair by qualified person.
Roy Cooke .... Royshomeinstection.com

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

If it's "messy," it's "wrong" (IMHO). It certainly warrants repair or correction.

[dspencer]

Any code to support the need for correction? What would the local Licensed contractor say about the placment of the wiring? Maybe a comment of dangling cords would be a safty issue....

Also you usally can tell how good a homeowner is when you see how they tied it in the main panel.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

NEC 110.12 Mechanical Execution of Work.

Electrical equipment shall be installed in a neat and workmanlike manner.

[Pierre Belarge]

314.17(C) exception

(C) Nonmetallic Boxes and Conduit Bodies.

Nonmetallic
boxes and conduit bodies shall be suitable for the lowest
temperature-rated conductor entering the box. Where nonmetallic
boxes and conduit bodies are used with open wiring
or concealed knob-and-tube wiring, the conductors
shall enter the box through individual holes. Where flexible
tubing is used to enclose the conductors, the tubing shall
extend from the last insulating support to not less than
6 mm (1⁄4 in.) inside the box and beyond any cable clamp.
Where nonmetallic-sheathed cable or multiconductor Type
UF cable is used, the sheath shall extend not less than
6 mm (1⁄4 in.) inside the box and beyond any cable clamp.
In all instances, all permitted wiring methods shall be secured
to the boxes.

Exception: Where nonmetallic-sheathed cable or multiconductor
Type UF cable is used with single gang boxes not
larger than a nominal size 57 mm

× 100 mm (21⁄4 in.

×

4 in.) mounted in walls or ceilings, and where the cable
is fastened within 200 mm (8 in.) of the box measured along
the sheath and where the sheath extends through a cable
knockout not less than 6 mm (1⁄4 in.), securing the cable to
the box shall not be required. Multiple cable entries shall
be permitted in a single cable knockout opening.



300.4(D)

(D) Cables and Raceways Parallel to Framing
Members.

In both exposed and concealed locations, where
a cable- or raceway-type wiring method is installed parallel
to framing members, such as joists, rafters, or studs, the
cable or raceway shall be installed and supported so that the
nearest outside surface of the cable or raceway is not less
than 32 mm (11⁄4 in.) from the nearest edge of the framing
member where nails or screws are likely to penetrate.

[Peter Doane]

Cables in basements and garage walls are often found exposed to damage. Cables should not be exposed on the surface of unfinished wall/ ceiling studs, and should have been borred and run in-through the joist at least 1 1/4" inches from the bottom end of the joist or at least 7' above the floor surface. Cables should also be secured within 12" of boxes, fixtures, or panels. To simplify this, I would call it out as:
"sub-standard electrical work noted in the garage. There are a few exposed electrical wires that are subject to damage. It is noted for buyer information that a qualified electrician should review further for repair options for occupant safety."

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Originally Posted by jpope

NEC 110.12 Mechanical Execution of Work.

Electrical equipment shall be installed in a neat and workmanlike manner.

One of my favorite notations as well....