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Old 4/19/08, 7:34 PM
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Now sure how they can sue you Karl.......you are simply stating what you see and making documentation of it. I say let them SUE and when you win you can go after them in return.

All you are required to do is report on what you find, if they wish to call it Manufacturing Defects then well......thats their ignorance and a judge will clearly see that...other than that not sure what you say to a person hell bent on sueing someone......."blinded by stupidity maybe".....but again if they are SET on going after you for these LIES that are making up...well I would do my report, give them a copy, document it with a witness and move on......stiring the POT only brings..well......more stuff to stir.



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Old 4/19/08, 7:37 PM
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It looks newer, when do you think it was installed?
The permits were pulled in 05. They still are not coming up with the finals. All per buyers agent whom I called to recommend checking on the permits.

Now it let me add more pics.
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Maybe you should call the agent's boss/broker and explain the situation in a sit down meeting.



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Old 4/19/08, 7:50 PM
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Karl,

The service drop and weatherhead are the least of this homes problems.

Run away, run away.


P.S. I think it's limited to 5 pics per post.
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Old 4/19/08, 7:52 PM
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Maybe you should call the agent's boss/broker and explain the situation in a sit down meeting.
That was my thought also about the sit down. I am aware that is the least of the problems, I spent 7.5 hrs. digging and documenting at the home.
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Old 4/19/08, 7:58 PM
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Believe it or not these are the comments their panties are in a bunch over.

"The attic stucture and the connection between the home have not been done by convetional practices. We recommend futher evaluation by independant contractor qualifed in roof structure."

"Further evaluation/repairs are recommended, by a licensed Roofing contractor."


"It is recommended that a licensed Electrician be consulted for further evaluation."
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Old 4/19/08, 8:01 PM
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That's also what appears to be a PVC weatherhead installed on RMC or IMC in a nonconforming manner.
Not understanding please elaborate for my edification.
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Old 4/19/08, 8:05 PM
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Now sure how they can sue you Karl.......you are simply stating what you see and making documentation of it. I say let them SUE and when you win you can go after them in return.

All you are required to do is report on what you find, if they wish to call it Manufacturing Defects then well......thats their ignorance and a judge will clearly see that...other than that not sure what you say to a person hell bent on sueing someone......."blinded by stupidity maybe".....but again if they are SET on going after you for these LIES that are making up...well I would do my report, give them a copy, document it with a witness and move on......stiring the POT only brings..well......more stuff to stir.
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Not understanding please elaborate for my edification.
You can install a PVC weatherhead on a metallic mast if you use the proper fitting. PVC weatherheads are normally designed to glue (solvent weld) on top of a PVC pipe riser (not mast, riser, since PVC masts are non-compliant). When I see PVC weatherheads on a metallic mast or riser, they're normally just stuck over the cut end of the pipe with no fastening means at all. Just sorta friction fit. There might be a PVC weatherhead made for on top of a metallic mast or riser, but I'm not aware of one.
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230.54 (A) & (B): Revised to require that service heads for raceways and cables comply with 314.15.

314.15 Damp or Wet Locations.

In damp or wet locations, boxes, conduit bodies, and fittings shall be placed or equipped so as to prevent moisture from entering or accumulating within the box, conduit body, or fitting. Boxes, conduit bodies, and fittings installed in wet locations shall be listed for use in wet locations.

FPN No. 1: For boxes in floors, see 314.27(C).
FPN No. 2: For protection against corrosion, see 300.6.
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You can install a PVC weatherhead on a metallic mast if you use the proper fitting. PVC weatherheads are normally designed to glue (solvent weld) on top of a PVC pipe riser (not mast, riser, since PVC masts are non-compliant). When I see PVC weatherheads on a metallic mast or riser, they're normally just stuck over the cut end of the pipe with no fastening means at all. Just sorta friction fit. There might be a PVC weatherhead made for on top of a metallic mast or riser, but I'm not aware of one.
Thanks Marc, that is something I did not and would not had thought to check.
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In my opinion your stating in the report that you "recommend" further evaluations. As far as I'm concerned your done with it. If they(sellers) choose not to comply and get the evaluations, how is that your fault? If the buyers are feeling funny about it all, they can back out now and find a house that hasn't been rigged.

I'd politely tell them to take up someones elses time and then you can go on your merry way to the next inspection.

I'd not so politely, tell the agent to lose my phone number.
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Old 4/19/08, 10:30 PM
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Thanks Marc, that is something I did not and would not had thought to check.
I must amend my earlier comments, as there does appear to be a PVC weatherhead that is adaptable to metallic raceways. I stand corrected. Here is a link to the actual PVC weatherhead in your picture, which shows that it is also suitable for metallic raceways:

http://www.aifittings.com/f_1.htm#PVC100

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Yeah Marc...but this house has many other issues.....in the least the issue of the weather head....



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Yeah Marc...but this house has many other issues.....in the least the issue of the weather head....
Maybe, but tonight I'm all about weatherheads.

Weatherhead anyone?
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