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Old 3/7/06, 9:00 PM
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Default No main disconnect

Today I found this no main disconnect on main panel box. What do you guys have to say about this.
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Old 3/7/06, 9:05 PM
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A split bus. Six or less throws completely disconnects the service. No problem there.



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Default Re: No main disconnect

Double tap upper left.

I don't like the double pole breaker feeding off down to (what appears to be the same buss bar?

No main disconnect.

What is the multi strand aluminum looking wire right side of box?
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Also, and I am guessing and going solely on the photo, but..
The middle left bridged breaker (60 amp) appears to have undersized wire for 60 amp breaker?
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Old 3/7/06, 9:17 PM
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Agree with Jeff, six throw rule okay.
Agree with Ray, double tap upper left.

Middle breaker right hand side (40 or 50 amp) double pole tie to neutral appears a tad burnt...



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Jeff,

I have always respected your posts and advice..but how do you come up with Six or Less here?





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Also, and I am guessing and going solely on the photo, but..
The middle left bridged breaker (60 amp) appears to have undersized wire for 60 amp breaker?
Those wires are aluminium branch wires. I recommend to have this evaluated by an electrician.
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Earl

I assume they are the ground wires? I see copper going under terminal screws of breaker, were does the aluminum fit into the picture. Work with me, I am going by a photo, my eyes are dim I cannot see....
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I have always respected your posts and advice..but how do you come up with Six or Less here?
A breaker at the lower-right of the upper bus, feeds the entire lower bus (one throw) - two double-pole breakers above that - and three double poles to the left side - six throws total.

It's possible that the double tapped breaker is not tied together, but I can't tell for sure.



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Like I said...you da man!





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Earl

I assume they are the ground wires? I see copper going under terminal screws of breaker, were does the aluminum fit into the picture. Work with me, I am going by a photo, my eyes are dim I cannot see....
Right side upper middle and left side upper middle 60 amp douple throw
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Jeff is correct!
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A breaker at the lower-right of the upper bus, feeds the entire lower bus (one throw) - two double-pole breakers above that - and three double poles to the left side - six throws total.

It's possible that the double tapped breaker is not tied together, but I can't tell for sure.
Agreed.

hard to make out the left side of the panel from the photo.

Configuration is for 6 throws which is acceptable.



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Today I found this no main disconnect on main panel box. What do you guys have to say about this.
I am a retired sparky and do not get into code.... period.
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............ my call would be!
Main panel (Immediate Further evaluation by qualified person.)
I think there is too many concerns to start and list them all.
It is wrong and must be fixed .

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Old 3/7/06, 9:33 PM
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Stranded AL is not a problem.



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