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Sometimes you just have to wonder at what you see.
You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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That looks like a satellite cable.
Try this: |
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Yep.
Here is the other end. You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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I noticed they used a tee at the bottom of the riser, which should have been an elbow so it doesn't trap moisture.
Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... |
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There is a drain hole in the tee and this is a very common installation.
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Is that just capped with a hole in the tee? It didnt look like a "drain tee" ... typically only used for Z vent locally.
Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... |
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Nothing unusual. It's not a condensing furnace. You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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Caulk shrinkage. Needs to be recaulked.
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Maybe add some foil tap too
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I would hope it's not, since that is B-Vent ...
Thats what makes me question the use of a tee with provisions for drainage. I would typically only see that for a chimney/flue on condensing equipment. A B-Vent chimney with standard equipment would typically just have an elbow at the base, since there isn't a significant concern about condensate or moisture at the chimney bottom with a proper rain cap. I would be concerned with field drilling a hole in the side of a manufactured product, no matter how common it was. And moisture would have to sit in the base, and then spill over into the double wall space before it even reached the hole. Not good, as any minor amounts of moisture in conventional venting should drain back to the equipment where it's burned off (from mfr instructions on every standard furnace/boiler I have worked on). Attached is a pic of a manufactured vertical drain tee typically used for mid-efficiency equipment (Z Vent), with provisions for positive drainage, with no trapped moisture. Just my take on things ... . Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... Last edited by roconnor; 9/19/11 at 8:10 AM.. |
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I have never seen the one you pictured, Robert.
I have seen the one I did many many times. FWIW, the furnace was a mid efficiency draft assisted unit. You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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Thats a manufactured specialty product, but I probably would be okay with something similar that is field assembled ... say a field drilled hole in a cap at the base of the tee ... not the tee itself. And I would still be concerned with access to the tee cap in order to clean out any debris.
P.S. How often do you see double-lug neutral wires in a panel ... Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... Last edited by roconnor; 9/19/11 at 9:46 AM.. |
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Many do not know this can burn out equipment more often the Double Taps on the hot wires Need help on inspection call my cell 613-827-2011 I like email Roycooke@hotmail.com Never wrestle with a pig (however titled) as you just get dirty and the pig has all the fun. Last edited by rcooke; 9/19/11 at 11:29 AM.. |
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Double lugged neutrals are a problem.
Neutral paired with safety ground of same circuit. Not so much. You can argue with intelligent people but to argue with a mush head is like trying to grab fog-Thomas Sowell |
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Please Note:
Robert Meier is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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Nevertheless still an NEC violation. |
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