Ok.....I'm done with Tedesco...

[fww56]

Mr. Elliot,

First of all, I never intended to make this a personal attack on you or anybody else, however you have elected to go down that road.

Originally Posted by relliott

Perhaps we would have more respect for your opinion if you had the guts to use your real name.

The fact that I choose not to include my last name really has no bearing on this discussion. I choose anonymity for several reasons, one being a privacy issue. It has been stated previously, in this very thread, that at least some of your members have no problem with unsolicited contact which I prefer not to be involved with. For you to question my integrity was uncalled for.


Since my work has been called into question by you,

Originally Posted by relliott

Perhaps if you did the same you would not need to have your work called in to question.

I will again state that the FEW times that my work has been called out by a home inspector I have ALWAYS prevailed. The fact is that my master credentials will trump a home inspector's opinion every time. Your SOP is to differ for further evaluation by a licensed professional isn't it? That would be me or a guy that looks just like me.

The intention of my post was not to call anybody onto the carpet, rather it was to let you guys know that the neighbors can hear you bickering and it does not look good for your family.

You guys just keep on discussing if a garbage disposal is required to have GFCI protection or whether the area under a sink is a wet area and the verbiage to write it up. Keep saving up to buy the latest and greatest tester from Ideal then posting questions such as, what does this reading mean or what does this mean. That surely adds the the perception of the questionable qualifications of home inspectors in general.

Unlike you I will not attack your integrity. From what I've seen you appear to be on top of your game. Is plumbing / heating your specialty? At a client's home, I'm sure that you and I would have little disagreement as to safety and or code issues and we would probably have lunch after.

Now I will concede that there are many in my own industry as well, that are lacking and should be weeded out, it is after all, a cross section of society in general. Without painting with too broad of a brush, the perception is that so many in the home inspection industry are lacking in such a basic understanding of the theory of electricity that they do not have the credibility to critique a true professional.

Like it or not, perception is reality.


FRANK

[fww56]

Brian,

I did not intend my post to turn into an "us vs. them" debate. As far as a problem with the bonding on a pool fence, It would not have been one of my jobs, in fact I've picked up on that many times myself when on a job for something else. Swimming pools are a great place to make "people soup"

You also would not find me either writing a response to validate a violation or an unsafe condition nor trying to defend one.

Not only do I follow the code, I also make sure I do safe and practical installations. There would be no argument from me trying to rationalize an unsafe or a violation of the code.

I apologize if you've got the perception that I think all home inspectors are incompetent. That is not the case, I must admit that I've seen many that are not qualified. I have also seen many that are very good at what they do and there are many that participate on this forum. I know several that do not have a problem with calling on me to make a clarification as to code issues, those I have the utmost respect for.

It's somewhat like the old saying " one ah crap wipes out a whole lot of atta-boys"

FRANK

[Frank Magdefrau]

Originally Posted by fww56

What I can't understand is how in the world you guys would allow this sort of thread with all of the bashing and he said said, she said stuff to be out there for all to see. If you haven't noticed, there are many that question the credibility of the home inspection industry in general, with a particular spotlight on the home inspector's qualifications regarding the electrical and mechanical systems.


To get back on track, I think this thread has done much more harm to your industry than either of these men has added. It is a real shame, both of these men have a wealth of knowledge and a willingness to share. It appears however, that neither can get over their own personal agendas and egos to stay focused on helping elevate your industry, to help it gain the qualifications, credibility, respect and professionalism that is currently lacking.

This thread along with some of the so very basic electrical questions that I have seen asked from the home inspection professionals, these same professionals that may be calling out my work is really providing a very good reason to question just how qualified and professional are you guys?

You guys want respect from us?

I think you're going backwards guys.

Just my thoughts.

FRANK

Hi Frank,

I went to a Sears parts store today to get a shelf bracket for my refrigerator. The part I needed was $4.85 but was not in-stock. They said they would have it in 7 to 10 business days and I would have to pay $7.99 for shipping and handling.

What would you have to say about that?

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by Ms Sparky

I just have one question to all this. Has anyone filed suit against him for slander, defamation, or harassment or....or....or

In all my years, I have never heard of this level of obsessive behavior being exhibited by a professional of his "supposed" caliber.

I am amazed that the professional organizations he is affiliated with have not censured him. I am surprised that these forums allow this type of behavior. And most of all, I guess I am disurbed that there are those on this and other forums who support and condone this type of victimization.

Maybe the victims could get together and hire one lawyer and get some kind of a package deal. Leave room for me, because I'm sure he thinks he has me square in his sites.

He told me that he is supposed to be in Houston "in-processing" for KBR October 20, 2008. Unless that's changed. Give it 7-10 days then file suit. He'll be in Iraq. Just a thought.

You guys are being WAY to nice about this!! My attorney is chomping at the bit over this thread and others. GET A LAWYER!!

Debbie

It's coming.....

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by fww56

Brian,

I did not intend my post to turn into an "us vs. them" debate. As far as a problem with the bonding on a pool fence, It would not have been one of my jobs, in fact I've picked up on that many times myself when on a job for something else. Swimming pools are a great place to make "people soup"

You also would not find me either writing a response to validate a violation or an unsafe condition nor trying to defend one.

Not only do I follow the code, I also make sure I do safe and practical installations. There would be no argument from me trying to rationalize an unsafe or a violation of the code.

I apologize if you've got the perception that I think all home inspectors are incompetent. That is not the case, I must admit that I've seen many that are not qualified. I have also seen many that are very good at what they do and there are many that participate on this forum. I know several that do not have a problem with calling on me to make a clarification as to code issues, those I have the utmost respect for.

It's somewhat like the old saying " one ah crap wipes out a whole lot of atta-boys"

FRANK

Man, I am really warming up to you Frank, pleas stick around and try not to let the knuckleheads get to you.

And I will not ask you any GFCI questions, I promise.

We can never have too many people here involved in the discussions

[relliott]

Frank , you came in to your first post in an insulting way and under a cloak.

This is why I jumped on your posting.

Yes I take it personal ,when there are comments in your first post, that some of the questions are 101 or novice in your opinion.

Yet here you are following this MB longer than I have been a NACHI member.

Quote.....I've been lurking here for several years to keep my finger on the pulse of your industry.....Your words.

It must not be too repetitious and boring or you would not be here.

Listen , many of the questions are monotonous at times for many of us , yet we answer them over and over because it is the biggest Inspector association in the world and many are new that have not seen the answers 100 times over.

I venture to guess that you have learned a few things in the other subject areas yourself and that is a good thing.

Face the fact this MB has some life and personality.
Go on other boards and some of the silly questions will just get laughed at , rather than answered.

The newbie comes on and says , where do I start. WE ANSWER.

Seems like a good place to be in my opinion.

Guys come in to do a trade like no other trade.

Our trade is not passed down from our fathers as yours was.

Where should they go to learn the basics of all the trades?

How many other jobs require our skill set?

Paul and Joe may be experts in their field and yet not qualify to be one of us dummies.

We need to know a little of everything and come in bearing different skill sets.

The systems where we are weak , we come here to learn about and if a member of the public wishes to take a peek under our respective Kilts they are allowed to do so.
Seems cool to me. No secret society here.

Enjoy the variety and international type flavor while you can , since it may not last for ever.

I am glad to have joined NACHI and it has helped make me a better Inspector.