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Old 7/26/07, 7:09 PM
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Default Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

I saw this in a new construction home. Can anyone see the code violation? Can anyone guess what the code enforcer did?

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Old 7/26/07, 7:59 PM
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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

What is the device in the upper left corner? Is that a surge protector?



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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

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I saw this in a new construction home. Can anyone see the code violation? Can anyone guess what the code enforcer did?

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I give up.
Are you referring to the surge protector in the upper left corner?
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Old 7/26/07, 9:33 PM
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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

The upper left item was a surgebreaker, love these things. http://www.squared.com/us/products/s...breakersda.htm


Hint: color of buttons.

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Old 7/26/07, 9:45 PM
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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

AFCIs everywhere?

Okay, if the required GFCI protection (locals in the bath's, kitchen, garage and exterior) are in place.

The AFCIs add another 'level' of protection but do not replace GFCIs...



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Old 7/26/07, 9:50 PM
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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

It seems they got a 'discount' on some of the AFCI's.

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Old 7/26/07, 9:52 PM
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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

If some of our resident Sparkys have the insight I think they have, we may see AFCIs required in nearly every area a GFCI is not...

lotta panel boards going to look like that one...



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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

The AFCI's would not be a violation.

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If some of our resident Sparkys have the insight I think they have, we may see AFCIs required in nearly every area a GFCI is not...
Rumor has it, they will be required on all circuits, even those with GFCI protection.



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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

Were some of those the old recalled ones, the ones with the blue buttons?

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Old 7/27/07, 12:00 AM
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The recalled (Blue Button) AFCI's will function as a Breaker. They will not reliably function as an AFCI.

Is that the reason the AHJ approved their use as a breaker?



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Not all blue ones were recalled.

Only certain dates were involved.



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Old 7/27/07, 12:11 AM
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Not all blue ones were recalled.

Only certain dates were involved.
Correct,

But the ones that were recalled were not found to be defective in use as a standard breaker (areas not requiring GFCI and/or AFCI protection).



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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

I saw a 'passed' sticker on the panel; so there seems to be no code violations.

tom

P.S. I understand this isn't a code forum, just one of the wackiest looking, new, passed panels I've seen.
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Old 7/27/07, 9:17 AM
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Default Re: Ok'd by two electricians, and not against code.

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The AFCI's would not be a violation.



Rumor has it, they will be required on all circuits, even those with GFCI protection.
The same rumor is spreading here Jeff!!
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Old 7/27/07, 9:23 AM
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The same rumor is spreading here Jeff!!

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