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Old 4/12/06, 12:24 AM
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Default The old Coffee Can Lid trick

Coffee can lid used as JBox...and also another light in shower stall...not only light but heat lamp/light/fart fan....nice eh?
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Default Re: The old Coffee Can Lid trick

Tony,

Common Sense Rule- I would not install a recess light above a shower unless the light and so on is rated for WET LOCATIONS and has a moisture trim....important to note that even DRY locations can become DAMP locations.....but thats another story.

Hopefully people have more COMMON SENSE than to change a light bulb in the middle of a shower......HOWEVER.......now....I would love some other comments on this...BUT...

Art 410.4(D) lists what is not allowed within the 3' x 8' prohibited area directly past the threshold of the tub or shower area....SO with that said it does not apply to recess or surface mounted luminaires....

Also a TidBit......we install Recess Lights with Moisture Trims all the time in showers.....perfectly allowed and fine.
Remember I am refering to NEC 2002...not 2005 as I don't yet go into that until more areas have adopted it.

Now....a key here is also the requirement for luminaires in wet and damp locations SHALL BE installed in a manner that will prevent water from accumulating in any part of the luminaire. Also luminiares that are marked " suitable for Dry Locations Only" SHALL BE installed only in a dry location, luminiares marked " suitable for Damp Locations" can be installled in either damp or dry locations.... and lastly luminaires listed for " Wet Locations" can be installed in Dry, Damp or Wet locations....

Ok....with that said.......and I dont know this so bare with me....technically depending on the light installed....be it a heat lamp, light or what have you it may be fine.....depending on the rating of the luminaire...

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Oh...and on the Coffee Can Lid......Yeah..what the heck...go ahead and write that one up...thehehehe...



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Default Re: The old Coffee Can Lid trick

Actually...another tidbit......a recess light installed over the shower does not have to be rated for Wet Location ( according to 2002 NEC )...but interesting however that putting a TRIM on it rated for Wet Locations is fine...we do it all the time......neat tidbit of info......I think...lol



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