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Out of all the receptacles in the house I Inspected,
I found 3 receptacles in the garage that my Tester said were an open ground.....the home owner said that they have been that way for 10years and they never had a problem. they were three prong receptacles . Is this a big issue ? David Pyramid-Home-Inspections |
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Yes. It is.
Defer to a qualified electrician for evaluation and repair. IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Last edited by mlarson; 10/28/06 at 6:28 PM.. |
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Speedy Petey is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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I usually have some cute reply ready for them. I will say something like, "Yeah, and your house hasn't burned down yet either, but it only has to happen once." |
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Yup, it's a problem. ____________________________________________ "An Education, not just an Inspection" Larry Kage, CMI Lake Ann (Traverse City), Michigan 49650 231 929 3525 Professional Inspector and Infrared Thermographer serving the Traverse City, Michigan area and beyond. ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED BUILDING SCIENCES THERMOGRAPHER ITC/FLIR CERTIFIED LEVEL 1 THERMOGRAPHER
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Marcel http://www.themainehomeinspector.com/ Serving all of Kennebec County and Central Maine Cyr Home and Commercial Property Inspections IAC2 Certified http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards Inachi 2009 US Member of the Year Master Shingle Applicator Shingle Technology Ouellet Associaties Inc. http://www.oaconstruction.com/ |
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Stephen Stanczyk Washington State Licensed Home Inspector # 221 Structural Pest Inspectors License # 71043 Vice-President, Washington Association of Property Inspectors (WAPI) (253) 241-0602 calls answered until 10pm Safe Haven Inspections Puyallup Home Inspectors - Olympia Home Inspectors Tacoma Home Inspectors - Bellevue Home Inspectors Pierce County -Thurston County - King County - Snohomish County |
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Being a garage I ask this.... are they GFCI protected and is the house old?
Meaning, that the electrical codes allow for three prong outlets 'downstream' of GFCI protection(either a breaker or a GFCI receptacle). If so, then the 'issue' I would have is, why aren't those receptacles identified "GFCI protected" and "No Equipment Ground Present". Just thinking out loud... tom |
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no....its the rear of house
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I only have about 3 hours to do inspection write report and be gone. Roy Cooke Roy Cooke.RHI. http://royshomeinspection.com/ Questions 613-475-1144 Roycooke@sympatico.ca " A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable but more useful than a life spent doing nothing." George Bernard Shaw |
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IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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ANY ungrounded plug with a 3 hole receptacle should be in your report and defered. Regardless of the debate that even (2 hole plugs are grounded in many eyes )......the EGC is used in a different way......
Lack of those having a EGC that shows up needs review.....the EC will look inside and determine the problems...might be as simple as a EGC that came loose at the receptacle BEFORE those 3.....you never know but the EC will find it....I ALWAYS find it.... so........as Jeff stated correctly ( yet again... I love what Speedy said.....MOST EXCELLENT.....man i wish I had a $1 for everytime I have heard that statement.....about been that way since the house was built and so on......classic home owners and RE's response...lol....Nice Speedy.........you nailed it ! Paul W. Abernathy,CMI,CEI,CEPE National Electrical Code Expert-ONLY Weekly Live Chat :http://www.theelectricalguru.com/chat.html Weekly Chat on Mondays & Wednesdays -8PM E.S.T * Notice- I will not be conducting any future seminars for the HI Industry. I am a CODE GUY so I will be focusing efforts on the NEC Code. If you have CODE question visit my website...if you have Electrical HI questions ask Nick or Ben Gromicko. |
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Michael Martin is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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oh stop..lol............we are talking generals here...not a system that has been protected by GFCI.....we are speaking to HI's on finding 3 hole plugs in a 2 wire system ( ungrounded ).......they know about the GFCI Protected and No Equipment Ground... ( that info is on the basic electrical intro exam )
He stated they were not labeled as such Quote:
Would you NOT defer them....hell any 3 prong receptacle in a dwelling that gives a reading of No Ground that is NOT labeled should be defered and let the CHIPS go where they may....I would not be worried about an electricians comments on this...safety first should be the HI's concern. Paul W. Abernathy,CMI,CEI,CEPE National Electrical Code Expert-ONLY Weekly Live Chat :http://www.theelectricalguru.com/chat.html Weekly Chat on Mondays & Wednesdays -8PM E.S.T * Notice- I will not be conducting any future seminars for the HI Industry. I am a CODE GUY so I will be focusing efforts on the NEC Code. If you have CODE question visit my website...if you have Electrical HI questions ask Nick or Ben Gromicko. |
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