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Old 6/9/10, 9:08 PM
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Default The perfect panel!

I did a condo inspection, today. Older (50+ years old) commercial warehouse converted to condos about 10 years ago.

It was, by far, the cleanest condo I have ever seen. The only defects could find was that the furnace filter was dirty (very dirty) and one bathtub spigot was not properl;y installed and sealed against water entering the tile.

But the biggest surprise was the pane. It was absolutely PERFECT!

Must have been done by some really anally retentive apprentice who was trying to such up to his foreman.

Gotta love it. I even commented to the client (joking) that he had just wasted $300.

He still paid me, though

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Old 6/9/10, 9:23 PM
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Must have been a local 134 job.

Just to nit pick ,I like to see a main breaker on the sub panel anyway.(5 throws or not)
I notice the wall appears dry in the photo ,so just asking if you checked to see if the grout was sealed ?
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Old 6/9/10, 10:06 PM
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For a condo, it would not be a main, it would be a subsidiary disconnect. The main was at the meter box, in the hallway electrical room. 6 throw rule, and therefore not required, but nice to have, I agree.

And the grout was sealed. Finally, a builder who gets it.

Go figure



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Old 6/9/10, 10:10 PM
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For a condo, it would not be a main, it would be a subsidiary disconnect. The main was at the meter box, in the hallway electrical room. 6 throw rule, and therefore not required, but nice to have, I agree.

And the grout was sealed. Finally, a builder who gets it.

Go figure
I still call it a main disconnect for the remote distribution panel.(not sure I can even pronounce subsidiary.

Glad to see you are still kicking ,as a few Inspectors have wondered where you went.
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Old 6/9/10, 10:17 PM
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It's even red, white and blue!



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Old 6/9/10, 10:57 PM
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Just to nit pick ,I like to see a main breaker on the sub panel anyway.
Why?



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Old 6/9/10, 11:01 PM
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For a condo, it would not be a main, it would be a subsidiary disconnect. The main was at the meter box, in the hallway electrical room. 6 throw rule, and therefore not required, but nice to have, I agree.

And the grout was sealed. Finally, a builder who gets it.

Go figure
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Old 6/9/10, 11:48 PM
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Don't do it Jeff, he probably wants to see a GFCI outlet there too....
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Old 6/10/10, 12:05 AM
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I think the "main" should be a gfi breaker. That would just about cover it all, wouldn't it?



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Old 6/10/10, 12:23 AM
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Why?
Just curious,but when you bought your car "Jeff", did you tell them to take out the keyed ignition?

Someone said you like to open the hood and pull the ignition wires one at a time, instead.

(insider joke)
Besides "Mike Merino" said so.
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Just to nit pick ,I like to see a main breaker on the sub panel anyway.(5 throws or not)
Bob, I'm assuming that "like to see..." and required are, in your opinion, two different things? You wouldn't include "like to see..." in your report would you?

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Old 6/10/10, 11:18 AM
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I'm not sure where you're going with that Bob, but there is no reason to add an additional shut-off in that panel.



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Old 6/10/10, 8:29 PM
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Bob, I'm assuming that "like to see..." and required are, in your opinion, two different things? You wouldn't include "like to see..." in your report would you?
Oh sorry , I did not realize this was a report.
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Old 6/10/10, 8:30 PM
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I'm not sure where you're going with that Bob, but there is no reason to add an additional shut-off in that panel.
Never mind ,as you obviously forgot the great sub panel debate this winter.
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Old 6/11/10, 12:49 PM
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Show me the thread. If was actually a "great debate," I would probably remember. If it was more of "I think it's safer and I don't care about the code," then it wasn't a debate.



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