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Old 2/27/08, 5:57 PM
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Is there anything wrong with this.

Seems like the POCO can get away with a lot more than others can.
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Old 2/27/08, 6:09 PM
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Default Re: POCO drop

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Is there anything wrong with this.

Seems like the POCO can get away with a lot more than others can.
Is that temporary drop for a building being renovated/upgraded?
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Old 2/27/08, 6:22 PM
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Is that temporary drop for a building being renovated/upgraded?
Older apartment building condo conversion. The building was fully occupied and the buyer was buying a unit from the original buyer who bought 2 years before.

Here is another one. Doesn't this violate the "near a window" rule?
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Old 2/27/08, 6:32 PM
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or shocking imagine only to survive the fire thinking that hey I'm going to jump and then you get the shock of your life. Where is the common sense
You only hope that when you hit the ground your heart restarts.
At least they could have provided a handrail??



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Old 2/27/08, 7:19 PM
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Here is another one. Doesn't this violate the "near a window" rule?
If there were a "near-a-window" rule, I would say yes , but there are "specific requirements" and it appears that this is a compliant installation.



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Old 2/27/08, 7:20 PM
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From that pic the feeders are right on the cable line .
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Old 2/27/08, 7:23 PM
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If there were a "near-a-window" rule, I would say yes , but there are "specific requirements" and it appears that this is a compliant installation.
I was taught that there cannot be a drop (or drip loops) within 3' (laterally) around a window.

Educate me, please.



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Old 2/27/08, 7:33 PM
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Sides and bottom only. The top of the "openable" portion of the window must simply be below the conductors.



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Old 2/27/08, 7:39 PM
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Sides and bottom only. The top of the "openable" portion of the window must simply be below the conductors.
Thanks, Jeff.



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Old 2/27/08, 7:41 PM
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Here is the reference;

CEC 230.9(A) Clearance from Windows. Service conductors installed as open conductors or multiconductor cable without an overall outer jacket shall have a clearance of not less than 900 mm (3 ft) from windows that are designed to be opened, doors, porches, balconies, ladders, stairs, fire escapes, or similar locations.

Exception: Conductors run above the top level of a window shall be permitted to be less than the 900-mm (3-ft) requirement.



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Is there anything wrong with this.

Seems like the POCO can get away with a lot more than others can.
Curious why you opened this thread with one of your old pictures?
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Old 2/27/08, 7:47 PM
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William,

As Jeff stated, over the window is fine.

But it appears that your drip loop is hanging right next to the window opening. A clear Violation.....

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Old 2/27/08, 8:07 PM
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Curious why you opened this thread with one of your old pictures?
Sorry, Mark. I thought it was another picture (the one with the multiple drop cables spliced to the service drop) before.

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Old 2/27/08, 8:09 PM
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William,

As Jeff stated, over the window is fine.

But it appears that your drip loop is hanging right next to the window opening. A clear Violation.....

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The drop is clearly (don't be fooled by the shadow) within the "openable" part of the window (the top also opens, and we do so, in Chicago. Old habits.).



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