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Old 1/18/08, 12:45 AM
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Yes, I am only concerned with the electrical systems.

Are you speaking for the entire industry?

My information is of value and many do appreciate it, if you don't like what you read ignore me!
I can ask the same questions are you speaking for the entire industry and how do you you know many appreciate your posts and how many is many.
Joe you do have lots of Knowledge .
But you do not use most of it at the level to give help where a lot more could use it .
I do know a little about electricity and find most of your post are above what is needed for Home inspectors.

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Yea what Roy said
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Four? Did I win?

Or 360 volt amperes?
YES!
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I can ask the same questions are you speaking for the entire industry and how do you you know many appreciate your posts and how many is many.
Joe you do have lots of Knowledge .
But you do not use most of it at the level to give help where a lot more could use it .
I do know a little about electricity and find most of your post are above what is needed for Home inspectors.

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My information is understood and appreciated by many, and I answer questions when needed.

Go ahead and post a picture or discussion and ask questions and help those who need help.

I don't want to fuss with you, and hope you will do the same.

Do you make inspections in the USA?
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Joe some of the commercial stuff go's over my head as well, but I would rather try and understand than have the same tired questions about what is GFCI 10 times a day.
Yes we need to answer them but it is also good to go past 101 level on subjects.
Illustrations and so forth would help in some cases.
I would love to see little posts on watt calculation , load calculation ,and the like.
As promised I have stayed out of the switch controversy as it is a nit picky subject area not going anywhere fast.
Please keep posting.
And Paul as always knows how he is needed ,as he saved my a-s a couple of times in the field.
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Old 1/18/08, 4:19 AM
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Yes I point it out during the inspection. No I don't think its a problem, but I'm not buying the house. Yes I put it in the report but not in the summery.



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Four? Did I win?

Or 360 volt amperes?
Let me update my answer just a little

The quad receptacle would be rated for;

15 times 625 times 10 carried to the 18th power electrons to pass over.

How was that Joe?
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Old 1/18/08, 8:41 AM
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Mike:

Tell us about the way in which this listed product helps to solve some problems, and how it fits in the calcuation for the number of receptacles installed in a COMMERCIAL building.
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Let me update my answer just a little

The quad receptacle would be rated for;

15 times 625 times 10 carried to the 18th power electrons to pass over.

How was that Joe?
Thanks Mike love it ,Now Joe can you just show us how this is important to the Home Inspectors.
I can not see this is of any use to 99.9 % of the home Inspectors.

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Thanks Mike love it ,Now Joe can you just show us how this is important to the Home Inspectors.
I can not see this is of any use to 99.9 % of the home Inspectors.

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It sounds technically exhaustive to me.



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Let me update my answer just a little

The quad receptacle would be rated for;

15 times 625 times 10 carried to the 18th power electrons to pass over.

How was that Joe?
Your previous answer was what we needed, and you were correct

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost....4&postcount=45

Others here who replied are seeing and reading something else not intended to be discussed because it is technically exhaustive.
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Others here who replied are seeing and reading something else not intended to be discussed because it is technically exhaustive.
Joe not meaning any disrespect I was under the impression that you was trying to get them to understand better the electrical theory.

In a theory class it is taught that one coulomb per second equals one amp. One coulomb equals 625 times 10 carried to the 18 power electrons passing a point.

Therefore a 15 amp receptacle would equate 15 times 625 times 10 carried to the 18 power.

With a thread trying to teach the Home Inspector how to use the proper terminology when writing up their report I just thought that it would be nice if the Home Inspector wrote on his report that there is a circuit in the panel that has the capacity of carrying 9375 times 10 carried to the 18 power electrons but is protect with a device with the capacity to allow 12500 times 10 carried to the 18 power electrons to pass through instead of writing that 20 amp breaker is protecting a #14 conductor.

I personally think that should a Home Inspector use this terminology in their report it would impress the electrician or code official that was called in to evaluate the system.

Now it goes without saying that most electricians and code enforcement officials would have no idea of what the Home Inspector was talking about and without a doubt none of the home owners would have a clue at all but it sure would impress a bunch of people.

After reading this a couple of times I think that it might be best if the Home Inspector just stayed with their SOP and didn’t try to do calculations in the first place. If any of them is as lazy as I am they would think that doing all that math was useless.

In case there are some out there that haven’t yet figured out this is meant to be humorous so sit back, relax, and giggle a little. It makes the belly feel better.



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Old 1/18/08, 9:41 AM
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Joe not meaning any disrespect I was under the impression that you was trying to get them to understand better the electrical theory.

In a theory class it is taught that one coulomb per second equals one amp. One coulomb equals 625 times 10 carried to the 18 power electrons passing a point.

Therefore a 15 amp receptacle would equate 15 times 625 times 10 carried to the 18 power.

With a thread trying to teach the Home Inspector how to use the proper terminology when writing up their report I just thought that it would be nice if the Home Inspector wrote on his report that there is a circuit in the panel that has the capacity of carrying 9375 times 10 carried to the 18 power electrons but is protect with a device with the capacity to allow 12500 times 10 carried to the 18 power electrons to pass through instead of writing that 20 amp breaker is protecting a #14 conductor.

I personally think that should a Home Inspector use this terminology in their report it would impress the electrician or code official that was called in to evaluate the system.

Now it goes without saying that most electricians and code enforcement officials would have no idea of what the Home Inspector was talking about and without a doubt none of the home owners would have a clue at all but it sure would impress a bunch of people.

After reading this a couple of times I think that it might be best if the Home Inspector just stayed with their SOP and didn’t try to do calculations in the first place. If any of them is as lazy as I am they would think that doing all that math was useless.

In case there are some out there that haven’t yet figured out this is meant to be humorous so sit back, relax, and giggle a little. It makes the belly feel better.


Thanks Mike I loved it BIG Time.
I read it three times and I still am lost.
I have some electrical field experience and it has been over 50 years since I had much class room instruction so if it was taught sorry I have lost it .
Thanks again for you post they usually very educational and can be humorous as well.
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