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Old 10/14/07, 2:34 PM
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Default Service amperage

Round meter base.
100 amp main breaker.
Appears to be #2 or #4 SEC Aluminum.

How would you report the service amps for this home? 60 or 100A.

I say the meter base is 60A
The SEC is 70A

I would report this as a 60 amp service.
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Old 10/14/07, 3:05 PM
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First of all the SEC's are copper and most likely #4. I tend to call these: "upgraded 60 amp services ." Most likely, because it is #4 copper, the 100amp panel will be ok, but I advise my buyer they should anticipate upgrading the service.
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First of all the SEC's are copper and most likely #4. I tend to call these: "upgraded 60 amp services ." Most likely, because it is #4 copper, the 100amp panel will be ok, but I advise my buyer they should anticipate upgrading the service.
Are the SEC tin coated copper?
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Given the age of the wire they would would have to be (my mind keeps wanting to find an exception )
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If...
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Appears to be #2 or #4 SEC Aluminum.
Then why......
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The SEC is 70A

I would report this as a 60 amp service.
If you are not sure of the size how can you call it anything????



If it is #2AL or #4CU then it is indeed a 100A service.





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Most likely, because it is #4 copper, the 100amp panel will be ok, but I advise my buyer they should anticipate upgrading the service.
THIS is a perfect way to report it.
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Default Re: Service amperage

Would just like to add that Paul Abernathy has told us in the past that the meter base is just a guide rather than a limitation.
And the Gauge is a limitation as is the Main Breaker,taking smaller of the two as the limitation.
If the gauge is not rated for 100 amps or better I would call that a defect.
Speedy is right about needing accuracy.
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Without knowing more about this house I would never say 100a was too small. "Fossil" appliances could make 100a overkill.
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Hi Greg..I should have clarified better as I was refering to the specific situation above ,as the Breaker is rated at 100 amps.
Though fossil appliances use more juice than newer more energy efficient models.
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Hi Greg..I should have clarified better as I was refering to the specific situation above ,as the Breaker is rated at 100 amps.
Though fossil appliances use more juice than newer more energy efficient models.
I think Greg meant fossil fuel burning major appliances, rather than those that run on electricity.
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