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Old 9/6/07, 2:30 PM
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Default Service entrance and a raised garden

This doesn't look kosher to me...

Service entrance buried in a raised bed, about 18" of soil.

Picture isn't great, but what you're seeing is the (already open) portion of the service entrance below the meter.

Companion picture is of a "normal" meter and entrance on the same building.

Any suggestions for recommendations? I'm thinking the raised bed could cause water to get into the panel (but no water or rust was found inside)

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Old 9/6/07, 4:00 PM
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Hi Thomas,

That would have to be wrong on several counts
  • Common sense
  • Lack of service space
  • Panel not rated for direct burial!!
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Old 9/6/07, 4:28 PM
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Thanks much, Gerry.
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If this is part of the meter socker assembly the utility company should fix it.
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If this is part of the meter socker assembly the utility company should fix it.
Absolutely NOT. I'd say probably over 90% of the country the customer is responsible for everything (except the meter itself) from the taps down or the lateral up. This includes the meter pan.
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  • Panel not rated for direct burial!!
How do you know this for certain?
That looks to me like a meter pedestal rated for burial. I am pretty sure it can be buried right up the that latch visible in the photos.
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Old 9/6/07, 9:12 PM
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Absolutely NOT. I'd say probably over 90% of the country the customer is responsible for everything (except the meter itself) from the taps down or the lateral up. This includes the meter pan.
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No. The sparky who originally installed it is wrong

Customers do not install meter boxes.

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Customers do not install meter boxes.
No, they install flower beds.
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How do you know this for certain?
That looks to me like a meter pedestal rated for burial. I am pretty sure it can be buried right up the that latch visible in the photos.
Funny Pete,

I thought the ones rated for direct burial had to be in a wooden lead lined box and at a depth of 6 feet

I learn something new every day

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No, they install flower beds.
Do you have proof that the homeowner did this? Huh?

By Occum's Razor, blame the sparky.

I'l bet the the person who laid the pavers in the first picture was a moon lighting electrician.



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Pete,

Around here the socket is set by the POCO. Contractor just runs SE tail out. POCO terminates to socket.
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Old 9/6/07, 10:16 PM
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Pete,

Around here the socket is set by the POCO. Contractor just runs SE tail out. POCO terminates to socket.
Is it just me, of does this sound, somehow, kinky?

We GOTTA get some better terminology, don't you think?



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Do you have proof that the homeowner did this? Huh?

It was done by the "magic trowel" from a spot on the grassy knoll

By Occum's Razor, blame the sparky.

Or the cat, dead in the box, which reminds me, what is the sound of one hand clapping??

Whoosh..................whoosh...............whoos h

I'l bet the the person who laid the pavers in the first picture was a moon lighting electrician.

I'll have to disagree on that one as I see no signs of splicing
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Old 9/6/07, 10:23 PM
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I stand corrected, Gerry.



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I'l bet the the person who laid the pavers in the first picture was a moon lighting electrician.
I once knew a guy who named his new company "Moon Light Electric". No joke.
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