Should this be in conduit

[smcarthur]

Originally Posted by Greg Fretwell

That is covered by the securing and "closely follow building finish" language.

Greg,
I was wondering if some one was going to bring this up. I've always wire the disposal with 14-2, installed it in NMC (smurf tube) tie-wrapped it to the plumbing pipes. Always passed inspection. I know that doesn't make it right, but that's the way I've done it and the way I've seen it done countless times.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Steve,

I am guessing this topic can be argued until everyone is blue in the face, I speak with alot of AHJ's and they just don't seem to find this nearly as a hazard as others may fine it to be.

Take the NM Cable to the Water Heater issue as well....now mosty AHJ's I speak with and it is fine if others say they are wrong....but they allow this type of installation...and I can think of BIGGER things to refuse than that on an inspection......if they tie wrap it to the cold water pipe and do it neat and so on....I simply don't have a problem with it...NOW I can quote code as to why it is wrong all day...I am speaking on a practicle acceptance basis...

As for the disposal...it also can be argued...but I happen to be one of those that feel unless an AJAX can went midevil on the wire...and took a life of it's own....chances are if it is neatly wrapped to the pipe and not hanging down in the storage area...then I would probably not fail it....neither would more than 90% of the AHJ's....

While the NEC may say it is not allowed....acceptance is everything and while I teach code......and explain code.......It does not mean GRAY areas will allow me to let something go if I determine it is not a big issue...and thats my call or the AHJ's call.......not someone here on the internets call.

if your local AHJ's are allowing something.....then continue to do it until they say otherwise.....as I stated I can think of MANY more areas of the electrical system that are way more hazardous.....but using your best judgement is key......in the Home Inspection world...which is what we are REALLY dealing with here.....I hardly think telling the client it has to be totally redone because it is code......will be very helpful....I would explain my concerns on it and how it should be done....again a Plug and Cord to a receptacle is the best fix here...

And in my opinion....it makes the HI look very good to know these options and be able to if anything verbally tell the client about it..so they are better educated.

[Caoimhín P. Connell]

In another thread, Mr. Abernathy says:

...unless I can drag you over into the electrical forum..I will just defer the arguement...lol

Paul: I will never post here. I don’t know nuthin’ about electricity except it doesn’t like me.

On Christmas Eve Day, our vacuum cleaner made a bright blue flash, POP! and stopped running. I cautiously opened it and saw that several of the wires had come undone and now resembled copper spaghetti. My wife asked me to fix it. So I grabbed my pistol and took the vacuum to the forest behind my house and fixed it real good. I think my wife will probably start talking to me again in a couple of days after she gets over the loss of her fav vacuum. Until then, I’ll chalk it up to “quality range time.”

Elecrticity? I can’t even spell it.

Cheers!
Caoimhín P. Connell

(The opinions expressed here are exclusively my personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect my professional opinion, opinion of my employer, agency, peers, or professional affiliates. The above post is for information only and does not reflect professional advice and is not intended to supercede the professional advice of others.)

AMDG

[Paul W. Abernathy]

lol...OMG...ytou know funny you should say that as my wifes carpet cleaning machine did the exact same thing...started smoking and WHAMO.....DOA.

Better to not fix those things....CHUCK EM' and BUY NEW...FANCY STUFF !