So you say this is OK?

[jtedesco1]

I say it is not OK!

[Troy Farmer]

At least they didnt use duct tape.

[Blaine Wiley]

At least a couple of radiator clamps would be nice..

[Barry Adair]

What is this copper strap (original zip tie) for and called?

[David P. Valley]

I write up all twisted GECs under a single lug.

[wsiegel]

Joe,

I write those up all day long. What would be the proper verbage and code citation for that??

[Greg Fretwell]

As ugly as that is, using 250.122 you are only obligated to end up on a wire sized to protect for the largest breaker in the cludge so you are left with a possible listing violation on the "bugs" (how many wires will it connect) and the nebulous "workmanship" catch all.
If each group of branches in the "tree" was made with a listed splicing device, within it's limits and it all ended up on one wire that was large enough I am not sure where the violation is.

[jtedesco1]

Originally Posted by wsiegel

Joe,

I write those up all day long. What would be the proper verbage and code citation for that??

Where the panelboard is used with nonmetallic raceway or cable or where separate grounding conductors are provided, a terminal bar for the grounding conductors shall be secured inside the cabinet.

[Joe Farsetta]

Joe,

I see grounds "bundled" under a single, large terminal lug all the time. was permitted by the AHJ.

I even see neutrals bundled, as in older PushMatic panels. I always flag it.

I would raise concerns with what is seen in the pic, but not cite code.

[wsiegel]

Thanks Joe

[jtedesco1]

Originally Posted by wsiegel

Thanks Joe

My pleasure, and we are all aware that the code reference was for information only and that the HI does not include that information in their reports, as Joe mentions, by not citing code.

This is understood, the point being is that it should be noted.

You can wisper in the ear of the electrician though just to show that you are aware of the rules have good reasons to make the defect apparent to CYA.

[Jeffrey R. Wicklander]

code reference 408.40

[Greg Fretwell]

Niether of those references prohibit tapping an EGC

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by Greg Fretwell

Niether of those references prohibit tapping an EGC

Well.....this is all new to me.

Whenever I find numerous twisted GEC's tapped under one single bolt, I've been calling them out.

So you're saying they are no big deal????

[Greg Fretwell]

It is sloppy and bad workmanship, probably indicating unlicensed activity but strictly speaking I am not sure it is a code violation assuming listed splicing methods are used and the terminal wire is big enough to protect the highest ampacity circuit connected.