InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Message Board > Specific Inspection Topics > Electrical

Notices

Electrical Contains discussions about electrical systems. This includes outlets, panels, wiring, et cetera.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 4/7/09, 11:38 PM
Linda J. Foster's Avatar
Linda J. Foster Linda J. Foster is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Utopia, TX
Posts: 463
Question Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

New home construction --
The service entrance panel is a 200 Amp rated Cutler Hammer panel with a 200 Amp main breaker. One of the breakers it contains is a 125 Amp that feeds the garage sub-distribution panel.

The garage sub-distribution panel is also a 200 Amp rated panel with a 200 Amp main breaker. This panel has 22 - 20 Amp breakers for the various usual circuits.

Is my assumption correct that if any of the 20's trip in the sub distribution panel, the first power to shut-down would be the 125 Amp in the service panel, not the 200 of the sub distribution ?



Linda Foster
www.HomeInspectionsByFoster.com
HomeInspectionsByFoster@yahoo.com

(210) 347-1023
TREC #7654
InterNACHI #06032691

Reply With Quote
Find an InterNACHI certified Arizona Home Inspector (and anywhere else in North America)
  #2  
Old 4/8/09, 1:20 AM
Jeffrey R. Pope's Avatar
Jeffrey R. Pope Jeffrey R. Pope is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 5,038
Default Re: Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

The 200 amp disconnect in the distribution panel is worthless, except as a means to disconnect (de-energize) the panel.



IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE
Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
Santa Clarita Home Inspection
http://www.MyInspector.net
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 4/8/09, 1:46 AM
Linda J. Foster's Avatar
Linda J. Foster Linda J. Foster is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Utopia, TX
Posts: 463
Default Re: Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

That's what I thought.
Thanks,



Linda Foster
www.HomeInspectionsByFoster.com
HomeInspectionsByFoster@yahoo.com

(210) 347-1023
TREC #7654
InterNACHI #06032691

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 4/8/09, 2:02 AM
Jeffrey R. Wicklander's Avatar
Jeffrey R. Wicklander Jeffrey R. Wicklander is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Libertyville, Il
Posts: 449
Default Re: Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

Basically, it is a 125 amp sub due to the feeding breaker being the lowest rating out of everything. If any of those 20 amp breakers trip, nothing upstream should trip.

Jeff



Jeff Wicklander
Corwick Home Services
224-715-0457
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 4/8/09, 10:26 AM
relliott's Avatar
relliott relliott is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: HARWOOD HTS, il
Posts: 8,570
Please Note: relliott is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

Weakest link in the chain ,is the one that breaks.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 4/8/09, 12:23 PM
brian winkle brian winkle is offline
Active Poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 454
Please Note: brian winkle is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

As jeff stated, the 200 amp breaker in the sub acts as a disconnect. There is no violation or defect here, as the sub feeders are properly protected at the main panel by the 125 A breaker.

Look at it this way, the garage sub does not even require a disconnect or a main breaker, unless it is detached from the house.

Those Cutler hammer 200 amp main breaker panels are cheaper than the main lug only panels, which is probably why they did it that way.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 4/9/09, 10:27 PM
Carl E. Anderson Carl E. Anderson is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sudbury, VT
Posts: 73
Default Re: Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

I agree with Brian,
As long as the sub panel contains an isolated Neutral (Grounded Conductor),
The 200A breaker is no problem, and serves as a disconnect to that panel.
According to my Uncle who is a practicing Master Electrician in Massachusetts,
If the sub panel does not have an isolated Neutral, it may cause the breakers not to trip in an actual fault/overload condition.
Carl
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 4/12/09, 8:56 AM
Rollie Meyers Rollie Meyers is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 32
Please Note: Rollie Meyers is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Sub distribution panel 'over qualified' ?

One thing to look for is if the panel is rated to accept a 125A breaker, some may be only rated for a 110A per bus stab.The old read manufacturers instructions thing.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electrical for Dummies mcyr Electrical 16 6/9/08 10:59 PM
National Electrical Code Information and Discussion jtedesco1 Electrical 44 4/18/08 12:43 AM
Panel Inspection Safety roconnor Electrical 10 9/24/06 10:02 PM
Bad electrical problem Pest Guy Electrical 4 1/20/06 10:26 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 8:02 AM.


Copyright © International Association of Certified Home Inspectors, Inc. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147

Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Popular

Membership

Inspection Standards

Education

Chapters & Members

Articles & Links

Other Organizations

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts