Subpanel Ground

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by tallen

well, that worked well.

It's gotta be that lame ssa camera, Todd

By the by James B is back

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

It's gotta be that lame ssa camera, Todd

By the by James B is back

Say it aint so, please!

Was not the cam it was the opperator.

[brian winkle]

Yes it is true the grounding and grounded conductors need to be separated, but no one asked if this was a four wire feed. If there is no grounding conductor feeding this panel then removing the bonding bar would be worse than leaving it alone.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Brian,

I guess that comes from actually NOT being able to see the number of wires coming in and the connections regarding that statement. I am of the opinion that never settling for the "alteast" method as a safer method.

In my original post the combination of which " Green Bonding Screw and Tie Bar" was incorrect....not actually that the GREEN screw was incorrect...just in combination they are incorrect.....boy that was cryptic..lol

Now I am also one that does not feel that HI's should offer a method to correct electrical issues...not because they dont know...but because it opens them up for liability as we ALL know if you tell a homeowner how to do something...they just might TRY it......

lol.....I know because I spend time moderating in another forum that tells people who to do it...and PRAY they listen to our warnings IF they are going to try....

I guess I dont like going into possible theorys of what would be better without knowing what is present unless they post it. So with that said.....it is a GREAT question........can we get a SHOT of the top of that panel with that NEW cam.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Well

[smcarthur]

I count only three wires......anyone else see a GEC?

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Well...I can't see one.......so we can assume they used (3) wire to a sub-panel....and well...did it wrong.....better PIC fella but Now give us a close up of the grounding buss bar..( left side..lol )

You are no rookie...lol.....You know what to write up...

P.S. I hate fellow electricians who use the ROMEX to label their wires like that...looks sooooo BEGINNER to me.....thats what a freakin Legend is for.....NO not me...A LEGEND...but the panel Legend...thehehehe

[Brian E. Kelly]

The neutral bus bar is incorrectly attached to the ground and should be floating to allow the current to pass back to the main panel and remain isolated from equipment grounds. This condition should be evaluated by an electrician and serviced as necessary.

Courtesey of Keith Swift.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Courtesey of Keith Swift.

The neutral bus bar is incorrectly attached to the ground and should be floating to allow the current to pass back to the main panel and remain isolated from equipment grounds. This condition should be evaluated by ME and serviced as SOMEONE ELSE.

Here is what is in mine..courtesy of Paul Abernathy...lol

[Brian E. Kelly]

How does one, serviced AS someone else???????????????

Mayhaps

Serviced BY someone else??

Maybe it should be wriiten by someone else.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

How does one, serviced AS someone else???????????????

Mayhaps

Serviced BY someone else??

Maybe it should be wriiten by someone else.

Now Brian, you be nice like your momma told ya.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Now Brian, you be nice like your momma told ya.

For me that was nice Michael.

Anyway Paul enjoys to lively give and take.