Swimming pool...brand new eqipment....electrical question

dnasser · April 16, 2012, 10:42pm

There was no GFCI present in the swimming pool equipment area.
Isn’t a GFCI a requirement?

The pool did not have light…( for night swimming )…Is that the reason ?

Help…

David

rmeier2 · April 16, 2012, 10:51pm

If this is a dwelling and a permanent pool, at least one receptacle is required.

680.22 Lighting, Receptacles, and Equipment.
(A) Receptacles.
(1) Circulation and Sanitation System, Location. Receptacles
that provide power for water-pump motors or for other
loads directly related to the circulation and sanitation system
shall be located at least 3.0 m (10 ft) from the inside walls of
the pool, or not less than 1.83 m (6 ft) from the inside walls of
the pool if they meet all of the following conditions:
(1) Consist of single receptacles
(2) Employ a locking configuration
(3) Are of the grounding type
(4) Have GFCI protection
(2) Other Receptacles, Location. Other receptacles shall
be not less than 1.83 m (6 ft) from the inside walls of a pool.
(3) Dwelling Unit(s). Where a permanently installed pool is
installed at a dwelling unit(s),** no fewer than one 125-volt, 15-
or 20-ampere receptacle **on a general-purpose branch circuit
shall be located not less than 1.83 m (6 ft) from, and not more
than 6.0 m (20 ft) from, the inside wall of the pool. This
receptacle shall be located not more than 2.0 m (6 ft 6 in.)
above the floor, platform, or grade level serving the pool.
(4) GFCI Protection. All 15- and 20-ampere, single-phase,
125-volt receptacles located within 6.0 m (20 ft) of the inside
walls of a pool shall be protected by a ground-fault circuit
interrupter.

clambert2 · April 16, 2012, 11:12pm

No offense David if you are not sure you should not be inspecting pools. Either turn the m down or hire someone who knows how to inspect them. Way too much liability

jhagarty · April 16, 2012, 11:38pm

A Non-GFCI Receptacle…
or
No Receptacle…
?

kwood · April 17, 2012, 12:31am

GFCI protection anywhere within 6 feet of the inside rim up to 20 feet away is what is in the 2008 NEC. After 20 feet no GFCI needed.

rmeier2 · April 17, 2012, 12:40am

Even if it’s outdoors?

lkage · April 17, 2012, 12:45am

Well now that you ask…

kwood · April 17, 2012, 1:01am

Must have a sealed cover to keep out the elements but as far as a know it does not have to be GFCI protected. Who wouldn’t recommend it anyways regardless of what the NEC says.

lkage · April 17, 2012, 1:11am

http://www.premierpowerinc.com/docs/GFCI-AFCIProtectionProduct.pdf

Jim_Port · April 17, 2012, 1:22am

What was the voltage of the equipment?

rmeier2 · April 17, 2012, 1:26am

Do you mean GFCI protection for the equipment or a receptacle is not where it should be?

kwood · April 17, 2012, 1:31am

That is the same thing I have Larry. If the house is closer than 20 feet then yes it applies, if the pool is father than 20 ft than no the next rule of the GFCI outside the home applies. So regardless of the pool rules all outside outlets should be be GFCI protected on a dwelling.

lkage · April 17, 2012, 1:35am

Well, alrighty then…

dnasser · April 17, 2012, 1:43pm

Thanks everybody…

rmeier2 · April 17, 2012, 8:34pm

You’re welcome…I think. Did we actually answer the right question?

Lesli_James · June 4, 2012, 9:51pm

Yes, that is the reason.

Jim_Port · June 5, 2012, 2:10am

Regardless of light or not any outside 120 volt receptacle would need GFI protection unless it was for specific equipment that he pool light would not be part of.