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This plug goes to and supplies power for the gas furnace about 3 feet away in the crawl space. No other form of disconnect. Furnace installed in 1992. Any problems?
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A cord and plug is a means of disconnect, however, that doesn't appear to be a listed assembly. In other words, it looks "home made."
Secondly, The furnace needs to be listed for a cord and plug. Most modern furnaces are not listed as such. IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Missing coverplate on the duplex receptacle too.
Check mfg. specs for any required overlaod protection ahead of the furnace. |
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Please Note:
Ian Gills is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
If there is a condensate pump and its within 6 feet of it, it should be a GFCI.
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In addition to the problems already mentioned.....It is hard to see in the picture, but the ground wire in the cord appears to be folded back and not terminated in the plug.
Frank P. Newman Emerald City Inspections, LLC Dublin, GA |
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Greg Fretwell is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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I haven't seen a cord & plug furnace/airhandler installed in anything newer than about '96, in quite some time. The units I see in newer construction are hardwired to a switched outlet and are not listed for cord & plug attachments. I'm certainly not saying they don't exist, but C&P units seem to be a thing of the past in our parts. IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Romex?
Will Decker, CMI ILL License # 450.0002240 Board Certified Master Inspector Decker Home Services, LLC Chicago and Northern Suburban Home Inspections Office: (847) 676-8393 Cell: (847) 609-2345 Home: (847) 673-2702 wjd@DeckerHomeServices.com www.DeckerHomeServices.com Learn, Educate, Serve and have fun doing it! |
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Please Note:
Greg Fretwell is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Cord and plug air handlers seem to be a local thing. I hear a lot of people say that is a regular thing, other places never see it. C&P water heaters are a similar thing.
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I have never saw one but it still must be connected to a double throw breaker. I know payne does make some.
Gary Porter GLP's Home and Mold Inspections 321-239-0621 Certified Commercial Mold Inspector Serving Orlando, Kissimmee, Winter Park, Winter Springs, Oviedo, Titusville, Celebration, Harmony, Avalon, Windermere, Deltona, Debary, Sanford Orange County, Seminole County, Volusia County, Osceola County www.homeandmoldinspections.com |
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Thats all I see here in AZ. Plugged in..
"Be Proud of Your Home, Go With Pride!" 'Not just a Home Inspection, but an Education' Pride Property Inspections provides professional Home Inspections throughout Tucson and Southern Arizona including Pima, Cochise, Pinal, Santa Cruz, Graham counties. |
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IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Please Note:
Greg Fretwell is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
You see 240v air handlers if that is also where the heat comes from (toaster heaters) and most of the time it is A/C. I know that is a foreign concept to folks in the frozen north but here below the 27th parallel "heat" as a 3 or 4 day a year thing. Nobody has a "furnace".
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Personally...I'll give my opinions on it for what it is worth...lol
1.) Last time I checked NM Cable was not considered a cord and putting an attachment plug onto it and allowing it to be used also as perm. wiring is well probably a problem... 2.) As someone stated...seems they have NO use for the EGC to be used at the furnace itself, they simply DID bend back the EGC within the NM Cable...and if it is gas..connected to electricity then in opinion it is " likely to become energized " since it DOES have a common connection so since this happens...guess you can't use the exception of the EGC as the bond......BUT wait...probably no EGC's in the whole house....yet 3 prong plug in the outlet....dont know...only the orginal poster knows that. 3.) Also we could argue dedicated equipment....BUT we have an open duplex that allows for serving as well I see.....and the NEC says receptacles in crawl spaces at or below grade need to be GFCI.....so if we argued the dedicated receptacle theory...in my " INT " I would make them replace the receptacle with a single receptacle...and oh yeah..add the cover also... Just my thoughts on it......but then again I have JET LAG from flying late last night..... Paul W. Abernathy |
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