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Old 8/2/08, 4:55 PM
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Now Joe you know that that installation is in violation of UL Standard 67 as well as the above mentioned code articles.
Mike, there are specially designed semi-flush panels and meter cans. They have a flange spot welded around the outside of them, much like the nailing flange on a new construction window. They area purpose built to be installed in stucco, as pictured. The most you can say is that there's not enough information to say whether these cans are the proper semi-flush style, or a surface mount enclosure that someone stucco'd around. I installed a Seimens multi-metering center this summer that was to have Dryvit around, and I had to use a "semi flush kit" installed on a regular surface mounted multimetering center. It was nothing more than a flange. There was no way to tell after the stucco was done whether this kit was utilized or not. The CH outdoor equipment rated for semi-flush mounting looks identical to the surface mounted stuff, to my eye.
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More Factual Information Here!

See page 165 here for another example

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Old 8/2/08, 7:06 PM
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I tend to agree that these "semi-flush" installations are proper, based solely on the mounting hardware. You can clearly see how it is intended to be mounted. . .
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It's interesting to hear about all the installation issues from places where it actually rains! We would never think twice about that installation here in the desert.
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Old 8/3/08, 12:08 PM
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Mike, there are specially designed semi-flush panels and meter cans.


Sorry everyone as I didn’t take a second look at the original picture when making my post.
I should have gone back for a second look after it was recommended by this expert in the electrical field,
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Nothing is wrong with the meter/main installation on the right, there are no hazards,

But I still didn’t take a second look. I just assumed that there was a hub plate on the top of that meter base without looking.

The whole of my comment stems from a job that was done close by where the siding contractor installed “J” channel around a meter/main combo which was turned down by the electrical inspector on a heat pump change out on the same job as the heat pump was wired from the outside meter/main combo.

The electrical contractor called me for help on the installation to wit I commented that the siding was in violation of 312 of the NEC.
With this fresh in my mind, my mind saw the hub plate in the picture which is not there.

Please accept my apology for my mistake, especially you Joe. Can you please forgive me for not looking closer?
Joe has been telling me for years to look before I leap but I just didn’t listen this time.
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