When were panels not allowed in clothes closets?

[jtedesco1]

Panels were not permitted to be installed in clothes closets since 1981

[Timothy J. Gardner]

Joe,

As is usually the case, many localities (and States)and modular manufacturers lag behind by 1 or even two NEC revisions. I inspected a modular last week that was built in 1986 and had one panel in a second floor clotes closet.

It was a LSAP (sub-Panel)that had the grounds and neutrals bonded together but not to the panel.

UGLY.

TG

[Bruce A. King]

I see some panels on bedroom walls in duplex type buildings.
Seems to be allowed in some counties at least.

Anyone know where this is not allowed?

[Harvey Gordon]

Joe, just did a house in Tamarac, FL where just LAST WEEK they passed an electrical inspection for a addition to the home where the corport was turned into a efficiency...and the NEW panel was IN THE CLOSET and SIGNED OFF by the City Inspector.

Whats your take on this?

[Harvey Gordon]

Oh...just in case it matters...it is a SUB-Panel.

[jtedesco1]

Harvey:

The final inspection may have been performed before the "closet" was built, or ???

Did you note it as a defect? If so, you have CYA!

[Harvey Gordon]

No Joe...It was passed 4 days before my inspection.

Can you paste a code refrence? Or any other data that would CMA?

[jtedesco1]

240.24(D) Not in Vicinity of Easily Ignitible Material

Overcurrent devices shall not be located in the vicinity of easily ignitible material, such as in clothes closets.

Examples of locations where combustible materials may be stored are linen closets, paper storage closets, and clothes closets.

240.24(E) Not Located in Bathrooms In dwelling units and guest rooms or guest suites of hotels and motels, overcurrent devices, other than supplementary overcurrent protection, shall not be located in bathrooms.

www.nfpa.org

[Harvey Gordon]

Man...Joe that now brings into question one I did on Friday...they had the Main Load Center inside the bathroom vanity (I know 36" clearance) right over the sink...NOW WHAT?

I dont know when that was inspected...but I know that only 1 month ago they had an electrical inspection for a new gas generator...they would have had to have an electrical included...right?

[Harvey Gordon]

Heres the foto regarding the bathroom panel...

[Harvey Gordon]

Originally Posted by jtedesco1

240.24(E) Not Located in Bathrooms In dwelling units and guest rooms or guest suites of hotels and motels, overcurrent devices, other than supplementary overcurrent protection, shall not be located in bathrooms.

Joe call me crazy...but this code seems to be related to Rental MDU's, Hotels, and Motels!

[jtedesco1]

Dwelling Unit. A single unit, providing complete and independent living facilities for one or more persons, including permanent provisions for living, sleeping, cooking, and sanitation.

Dwelling, One-Family. A building that consists solely of one dwelling unit.
Dwelling, Two-Family. A building that consists solely of two dwelling units.
Dwelling, Multifamily. A building that contains three or more dwelling units.

[Harvey Gordon]

What about this Joe?

Originally Posted by hgordon

Man...Joe that now brings into question one I did on Friday...they had the Main Load Center inside the bathroom vanity (I know 36" clearance) right over the sink...NOW WHAT?

I dont know when that was inspected...but I know that only 1 month ago they had an electrical inspection for a new gas generator...they would have had to have an electrical included...right?

[Timothy J. Gardner]

Harvey,

That's the medicine storage cabinet for bi-polar electric shock therapy.

TG

[jtedesco1]

Originally Posted by hgordon

Heres the foto regarding the bathroom panel...
Attachment 1623

Inadequate working space in front of the equipment, and the panel is not permitted to be installed in a bathroom.