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Old 10/3/06, 6:42 PM
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Default What's wrong with this panel?

One year old construction.

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Old 10/3/06, 7:07 PM
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Default Re: What's wrong with this panel?

Well, the insulation within the box is certainly a problem.

There's at least one AFCI that won't operate as its neutral has become disconnected.

Is there a bonding strap or screw attached to the neutral bus?



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Old 10/3/06, 7:12 PM
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Default Re: What's wrong with this panel?

Hahahahahaha!
That happens to other people too? Cool!

I LOVE blown in! Can you tell?
Oh yeah, it tastes real good too.



Jeff, the bond is the bigger green 1/4-20 screw in the neutral buss at the top right.
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Old 10/3/06, 7:14 PM
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Jeff, the bond is the bigger green 1/4-20 screw in the neutral buss at the top right.
Ah yes. I see it. . .



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Old 10/3/06, 7:33 PM
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There's at least one AFCI that won't operate as its neutral has become disconnected.
Or wired backwards like this mornings new home (just passed final electrical)

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Old 10/3/06, 9:57 PM
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Default Re: What's wrong with this panel?

You didn't show a picture looking up but I bet there is either a raceway "chimney" into the attic with the RX in it or there are some missing knockouts and a chase. How did the insulation get down there?

BTW I would write up that shreaded newspaper as a defect if I saw it but that may just be a Florida thing. Here it will turn into grey mud in 5 years.
In Florida the vapor barrier should be OVER the insulation, particularly if it is going to absorb water. Our warm moist air is outside, not inside like you folks with a winter. Insulation like this becomes a sponge.
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Old 10/4/06, 12:11 AM
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I am with Greg....is their a conduit ran to the attic for future? As I have seen many blow ins but never have I seen it fill the panel like this without a knockout missing or a PVC Conduit running to the attic...and the installer leaving it too short as to not make it ABOVE the blown in.



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Default Re: What's wrong with this panel?

It was in a garage, the third car single garge. The homeowner had had the builder close in and insulate this as an extra room. There was fiberglass blown in the attic, so I am assuming this was what they put in the walls for insulation.




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Old 10/4/06, 12:23 AM
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lol....well they got HAPPY with it......no doubt...



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