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Old 5/1/09, 6:54 AM
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Do you keep extra panel covers as well?
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Old 5/1/09, 8:25 AM
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Do you keep extra panel covers as well?
I keep a tiny Electrician in the back of the truck to fix things during the inspection. He gets along with the tiny foundation and roofer guys. However the tiny plumber had to be let go he showed crack.
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In a way, Wayne makes a good point. (not sure if you meant it that way)

Where do you stop? Do you replace the TPRV if it's faulty? Do you replace or repair a vent boot if it's cracked? Do you install a ground rod if one is missing and is required? Do you properly rebuild the deck if it's not supported correctly?

Point is, if you repair one defect - they may expect you to repair them all. Even a small one like improper panel cover screws.
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Do you keep extra panel covers as well?
Sorry if that offends you in some way.



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I keep a tiny Electrician in the back of the truck to fix things during the inspection. He gets along with the tiny foundation and roofer guys. However the tiny plumber had to be let go he showed crack.
More likely you have cards that say "George Bush did this" to put on every defect you find.



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Old 5/1/09, 9:28 AM
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In a way, Wayne makes a good point. (not sure if you meant it that way)

Where do you stop? Do you replace the TPRV if it's faulty? Do you replace or repair a vent boot if it's cracked? Do you install a ground rod if one is missing and is required? Do you properly rebuild the deck if it's not supported correctly?

Point is, if you repair one defect - they may expect you to repair them all. Even a small one like improper panel cover screws.
No to all the above.

You have my permission to put all the pointy headed screws back into the panel covers you want.



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Sorry if that offends you in some way.
Sorry you concluded that I was offended. You know that I don't pay any attention to what you have to say!
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Why wouldn't an HI take that cover off? It is certainly readily accessible and He'd certainly have cause to investigate.
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Would you remove the cover from a Fed Pacific panel full of loose stablocks? Many (myself, included) will not. Without knowing what is behind it, how can you determine that it is safe to remove?

The unsafe modifications made to the original equipment that can be readily observed is enough to call in a licesned electrician to repair or replace....no matter what is behind the sheet metal and drywall screws.



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More likely you have cards that say "George Bush did this" to put on every defect you find.
Ouch!



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Would you remove this cover?
Why risk it when it has to be written up anyway?



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The panel was over-sized James, so replacing it was easy, The drywall screws were in the drywall, not the enclosure.

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I don't even know what it is since it's labeled "sub panel." What the heck is a sub panel?
That was actually (almost) my reasoning for removing this cover. I would have hated to refer an electrician to this, only to find that it was simply covering a hole in the wall.

I'm not necessarily saying it was the "right" call, but it was "my" call.



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Yes... I would open the sub. Along with the obvious hazard of a FPE Stab-Lok, I would state that the cover should have been a properly UL listed panel cover. That's if the buyer wasn't worried about the FPE.

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The panel was over-sized James, so replacing it was easy, The drywall screws were in the drywall, not the enclosure.



That was actually (almost) my reasoning for removing this cover. I would have hated to refer an electrician to this, only to find that it was simply covering a hole in the wall.

I'm not necessarily saying it was the "right" call, but it was "my" call.


Can't say yes or no one this one. I'd likely make that decision in the field. Depends on many variables.
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