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Old 1/11/07, 6:27 PM
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200 amp service equipment.
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Old 1/11/07, 7:14 PM
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Ill advised use of "double" breakers?
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Old 1/11/07, 7:26 PM
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What is wrong with this picture?? ...200 amp service equipment.
What is your opinion, William?



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Old 1/11/07, 7:39 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with this picture??

That jumper connection at the top bothers me. I am assuming that it is a copper to copper splice (as the other cable is copper). The downsizing of the wire is raising a red flag to me. Wanted to see what you gents thought about it.
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Old 1/11/07, 7:47 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with this picture??

The neutral wire is frequently smaller. Although it looks strange----GE makes a 200 amp breaker that looks like that with each of the four segments marked 200amps. I don't like it but I am told that they are OK. Let's see what Paul has to say. Could you see any "issues" with the way the splice was done?
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Old 1/11/07, 7:49 PM
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The splice looks neat enough...

I guess my old eyes can't see the reduction in conductor size.

Was the smallest conductor rated for the service amperage?



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Old 1/11/07, 7:53 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with this picture??

Well I will give one thing to start the ball rolling....needs to WRAP that "Grounded" conductor with some white tape for starters.

Who's Next.........can only do one at a time....

Hint.....I am seeing COLORS....thehehehe...and misleading colors at BEST...



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Default Re: What is wrong with this picture??

Does that panel have a bridged bonding connection on the bottom to connect those two buss bars, and is the buss bar bonded to the panel enclosure...can't see that from the image..probably lower and on the LEFT.



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Default Re: What is wrong with this picture??

Whooops!! Boy do I have egg on my face-----the splice is not the neutral and then I would definately have concerns about the wire size change. Sorry about that.
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Whooops!! Boy do I have egg on my face-----the splice is not the neutral and then I would definately have concerns about the wire size change. Sorry about that.
The splice looks ok, can't really tell if the conductor is smaller or possibly just a change from lets say USE to THHn or something in the panel.....would have to get a better look at it to tell.

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Can't see any GEC leaving the panel. It too might be near the bottom.
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There is no dead front cover!??

No color designation for the Neutral.
...and the orange sheathed conductors were made in China...
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lol...what don't you like my colors hint....lol



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Default Re: What is wrong with this picture??

Almost looks as if uppermost red conductor to top right breaker has a damaged (or burned/melted) sheath.
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Default Re: What is wrong with this picture??

None of the smaller wires coming in from the top are protected by sheathing through the clamps.
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