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Old 1/15/07, 9:57 PM
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Why did William say it has a lot to be desired?
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Improper weatherhead height, missing GFCI's at wet area outlets, exposed wires, damaged outlet - just to name a few. All the did was change the box for insurance.
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I believe there is a problem in this photo. Can anyone tell me what it is? It's entirely possible that I will be diasagreed with, but IMO this is dangerous.
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You mean other than the LPG stored indoors?
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I believe there is a problem in this photo. Can anyone tell me what it is? It's entirely possible that I will be diasagreed with, but IMO this is dangerous.
Yes, it is dangerous to have a panel cover off.

It's okay to store LP gas indoors, but the cylinder needs restrained, such as with a chain. The area within 18" of the ceiling needs wired with Class 1, Division 2 wiring methods (hazardous location). It would be better if they put the propane bottle on the back porch or in a shed.
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No motor on the ice auger also.
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lol.......ahhh i see it....
lol......lets grasp now.....no bushing on the ungrounded service conductors coming in...lol



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William,

Maybe I'm missing something with regard to your reply. You stated things that were not seen in the photo you asked our opinion of.
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Joe,

some of us are refering to the picture Jerry posted....not William's



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Marc LPG tanks in a dwelling is never allowed around here.... but I bet it happens ... and why would the ceiling be a classified area.
Propane is heavier than air.
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Marc LPG tanks in a dwelling is never allowed around here.... but I bet it happens ... and why would the ceiling be a classified area.
Propane is heavier than air.
Guess I got it mixed up with CNG. CNG rises, LPG falls.
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Paul,

At first, I thought so to. But, he posted this prior to the new pic being posted. And, he was answsering my question.

Here's his reply:

Joe,

Improper weatherhead height, missing GFCI's at wet area outlets, exposed wires, damaged outlet - just to name a few. All the did was change the box for insurance.
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Marc LPG tanks in a dwelling is never allowed around here.... but I bet it happens ... and why would the ceiling be a classified area.
Propane is heavier than air.
nor is it allowed to be stored indoors at ANY building here. It can be used to power indoor equipment, but bottles not in use must be stored outdoors.

The fact that LPG is heavier than air is the reason most small boats use alcohol stoves, a bilge full of explosive gas could ruin your day.
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Paul,

At first, I thought so to. But, he posted this prior to the new pic being posted. And, he was answsering my question.

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Joe,

Improper weatherhead height, missing GFCI's at wet area outlets, exposed wires, damaged outlet - just to name a few. All the did was change the box for insurance.
AHHH....way to confusing when a thread is hijacked with another image when commenting on the original image...Probably BETTER logic to start a new thread POM.....to avoid response confussion.



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AHHH....way to confusing when a thread is hijacked with another image when commenting on the original image...Probably BETTER logic to start a new thread POM.....to avoid response confussion.
Yes, but a little disorder is just the thing to get our widdle brains clicking with activity.---lol
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