Condensate drain blowing cold air

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by badair

Vent should be installed down stream from the condensate p-trap.

That makes perfect sense. I didn't catch the location of it prior to the trap.

[mthomas2]

From a typical Lennox manual. Trap both the primary and secondary (if connected to a drain), cleanout(s) go after the trap:

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by mthomas2

From a typical Lennox manual. Trap both the primary and secondary (if connected to a drain), cleanout(s) go after the trap:

Ah! Finally a good diagram of what should be done. Thank-you.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Ah! Finally a good diagram of what should be done. Thank-you.

Barry's diagram is better.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by badair

Vent should be installed down stream from the condensate p-trap.

In hot-humid attics it is also advisable to insulate the condensate drain lines to avoid condensate forming on the pipe exterior and dripping onto attic surfaces, insulation, wood, drywall...

Advisable to install overflow switch on the drain pans when located on second floor or in attic

Secondary drain should not be plugged or capped

Nice digrams Barry.

[Barry Adair]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Nice diagrams Barry.

you're welcome but

Thanks, goes to Jerry Mc and the guys over at IN

Michael's are what all of use should be using, information provided in the instruction/installation manuals that are supposed to be with the equipment, yeah right just like the set for the WH.

So, Michael did you ever get the name of your office screen-shot program?

Linda,
The vent downstream in theory and reality stops the air loss from the drainpipe due to the weir of the p-trap as far as cabinet leakage you are right a tech will be required to evaluate repair probably mastic sealant.

[Barry Adair]

Originally Posted by dvalley

My air handler unit is in my attic and never sweats. I've just never seen insulation on a condensate line. Oh well.

Dave,

You need to get out more often

Come down here where from May-Oct attics range from 100°F-150°F with RH hovering around 50%-99.999% and you'll see every unit inspected is sweating like a $20.00 hooker on Harry Hines Blvd.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by badair

Dave,

You need to get out more often

Come down here where from May-Oct attics range from 100°F-150°F with RH hovering around 50%-99.999% and you'll see every unit inspected is sweating like a $20.00 hooker on Harry Hines Blvd.

Ohh, I get out enough, it's just that our condensation lines simply do not sweat. Must be an outside weather thing.

I'll tell you what, send me a flight ticket to Texas and show me a thing or two! I'll be waiting by my mailbox for the ticket. Ohh, by the way, my son says that he's like to tag along also. So, two tickets will work.

Thanks Barry. I'm looking forward to tagging along with you.

[mthomas2]

Berry:

The one I really like is Snagit:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1936101,00.asp
http://www.techsmith.com/screen-capt...KgoogleStmhome

though if you just want to do simple screen capture something like MWSnap works fine.

[Barry Adair]

David,
Step away from the mailbox.
Too late in the season to get the full monty.
Start looking for your ticket in April next year.
It would almost be worth it if you're willing to take all of the attics for a summer.

Michael,
Thanks for the links and other info I have gleaned from you over the years.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by badair

David,
Step away from the mailbox.
Too late in the season to get the full monty.
Start looking for your ticket in April next year.
It would almost be worth it if you're willing to take all of the attics for a summer.

Thanks anyways.

If your looking for a great screen capture program without purchasing a single bit of software, it's right on your computer, if you're using Windows.

• The first step is to create the windows that you want to capture and leave it right up on the screen.
• Just to the right of your keyboard, you should see three groups of keys. The lower set of keys usually is a group of arrow keys. Above that is usually a set of some six keys that are labeled "Insert," "Home," "Page Up," etc. Above that should be three keys that have rather odd labels - like Pause/Break and ScrLk. One of those keys should be labeled PrtScrn/SysRq. Pressing Alt and PrintScreen at the same time places an image of the frontmost window on the clipboard. Pressing PrintScreen by itself places an image of the entire desktop on the clipboard.
• If you press PrtScrn/SysRq, nothing will appear to have happened. However, your computer just took a snapshot of its screen and stored that picture on its clipboard, much as it stores information that you cut and paste.
• Open MS-Paint. (From Start/Run, issue the command "mspaint".) Create a new empty image, and use Edit/Paste to bring in the screenshot you just took. (If the screenshot is smaller than the default Paint canvas, you will end up with white areas. Start over: create a new empty image, change its dimensions to 1x1, and Paste again. The canvas will grow for the Paste, but it doesn't shrink.)
• Use MS-Paint to Save As, using PNG as the file format (it is superior to all the rest).
• You're done...Now go get your screen capture in the file you just saved it in.

[jlybolt]

Dont see anything wrong with this setup in the picture. Done this way all the time here in Texas. Common to see primary condensate draining to bathroom sink. - yes
Texas SOP requires the primary drain line to be insulated. If not it has to be written up as in need of repair. Different parts of the country different requirements.

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by dvalley

Thanks anyways.

If your looking for a great screen capture program without purchasing a single bit of software, it's right on your computer, if you're using Windows.

• The first step is to create the windows that you want to capture and leave it right up on the screen.
• Just to the right of your keyboard, you should see three groups of keys. The lower set of keys usually is a group of arrow keys. Above that is usually a set of some six keys that are labeled "Insert," "Home," "Page Up," etc. Above that should be three keys that have rather odd labels - like Pause/Break and ScrLk. One of those keys should be labeled PrtScrn/SysRq. Pressing Alt and PrintScreen at the same time places an image of the frontmost window on the clipboard. Pressing PrintScreen by itself places an image of the entire desktop on the clipboard.
• If you press PrtScrn/SysRq, nothing will appear to have happened. However, your computer just took a snapshot of its screen and stored that picture on its clipboard, much as it stores information that you cut and paste.
• Open MS-Paint. (From Start/Run, issue the command "mspaint".) Create a new empty image, and use Edit/Paste to bring in the screenshot you just took. (If the screenshot is smaller than the default Paint canvas, you will end up with white areas. Start over: create a new empty image, change its dimensions to 1x1, and Paste again. The canvas will grow for the Paste, but it doesn't shrink.)
• Use MS-Paint to Save As, using PNG as the file format (it is superior to all the rest).
• You're done...Now go get your screen capture in the file you just saved it in.

Thanks, David.

[kweiss]

What about the ones with no trap.

I am seeing more and more of these. Around here they are all connecting to the drain at a vanity drain above the sink trap. I generally call it out and have several times had builders state that it isn't needed due to the fact that the sink drain is trapped.

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by kweiss

What about the ones with no trap.

I am seeing more and more of these. Around here they are all connecting to the drain at a vanity drain above the sink trap. I generally call it out and have several times had builders state that it isn't needed due to the fact that the sink drain is trapped.

My biggest concern has always been can sewer gas get into the air stream of the furnace. With a wet trap or continous flow; as some would say it would not concern me.