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Freedom Express Inspections LLC CMOR Thermography Certified Level III #8486 freedomexpressinspections.com www.oklahomathermalinfraredimaging.com freedomexpress495@att.net NACHI Member Okla. State DEQ Environmental Phase One Certified Master HVAC Mechanic (Retired) Certified Universal Freon by 40CFR 82 Sub-part F State License # 130 Serving the States of Okla, Texas, Kansas, Missouri , Arkansas and New Mexico with Commercial Inspections,Thermal Imaging |
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jlybolt is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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The original picture posted has the condensate service/vent stub incorrectly located before the condensate line trap. The correct location for the service/vent stub is after the condensate line trap as shown in the diagram Barry posted.
The purpose of the condensate line trap is not to prevent sewer gas from entering the building ... it is to seal the line so the system doesnt lose excessive pressure (yes, AC systems are pressurized). And the service/vent stub should not be capped, as that can result in condensate trap siphoning which would defeat the purpose of the trap. The primary drain from the unit can discharge into the house septic system, but only before a septic system trap (again as per the diagrams Barry posted). That is what prevents sewer gas from coming out of the service/vent stub ... not the condensate line trap. I also sometimes see attic AC systems with the stub before the trap (similar to the original post picture) and the condensate line tapped into the main septic vent in the attic. I guess the installers also thought the trap was to prevent the escape of sewer gasses ... Also ... The secondary condensate pan can have either a drain to a visible location (no trap required) ... or there can be a stut-off float switch in the pan with no secondary drain line. JMO Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... Last edited by roconnor; 9/8/07 at 4:55 PM.. |
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That is the point I have been trying to make to many Hi's just check for a trap at the coil for the primary drain or the lack of and do not check where it is being discharged to. Many times I find them connected to a stack vent or in a crawl space after a building trap. I also write up every one. Freedom Express Inspections LLC CMOR Thermography Certified Level III #8486 freedomexpressinspections.com www.oklahomathermalinfraredimaging.com freedomexpress495@att.net NACHI Member Okla. State DEQ Environmental Phase One Certified Master HVAC Mechanic (Retired) Certified Universal Freon by 40CFR 82 Sub-part F State License # 130 Serving the States of Okla, Texas, Kansas, Missouri , Arkansas and New Mexico with Commercial Inspections,Thermal Imaging |
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Hi Charley ... just been working and lurking. There are a few good HVAC guys on here, but I still check in on the HVAC section occasionally.
In addition to checking for the presence of a condensate line trap and acceptable discharge point, it should also be checked that there is a service/vent stub and that it is downstream of the condensate line trap. The condensate trap is essentially useless if you put the service/vent stub upstream of the trap, as in the original post/pictures. JMO Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... |
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