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I'm putting another furnace furnace in the attic and the old one did not have a drip leg on the gas line. The furnce is a horizontal one; the gas line will come out of the top of the furnace. The main line for the gas is on the far side of the furnace and is run along the bottom of the truss, if I put a drip leg closest to the furnace it will be in front of the service panel or is it ok to have the drip leg 35 inches away on the far side of the furnace? Thanks for any help.
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Check with your local jurisdiction and manufacturer installation instructions for requirements.
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2009 IRC G2419.4 (408.4) Sediment trap. Where a sediment trap is not incorporated as part of the appliance, a sediment trap shall be installed downstream of the appliance shutoff valve as close to the inlet of the appliance as practical. The sediment trap shall be either a tee fitting having a capped nipple of any length installed vertically in the bottom-most opening of the tee or other device approved as an effective sediment trap. Illuminating appliances, ranges, clothes dryers and outdoor grills need not be so equipped. IRC Commentary: In addition to the code requirement, most appliance manufacturers require the installation of a sediment trap (dirt leg) to protect the appliance from debris in the gas. Note that a drip leg is not the same as a sediment trap (see Section G2419.2). Sediment traps are necessary to protect appliance gas controls from the dirt, soil, pipe chips, pipe joint tapes and compounds and construction site debris that enter the piping during installation and repairs. Hazardous appliance operation could result from debris entering gas controls and burners. Despite the fact that utilities supply clean gas, debris can enter the piping prior to and during installation on the utility side of the system and on the customer side. Sediment traps are designed to cause the gas flow to change direction 90 degrees (1.57 rad) at the sediment collection point, thus causing the solid or liquid contaminants to drop out of the gas flow [see Commentary Figure G2419.4(1)]. The nipple and cap should not be placed in the branch opening of a tee fitting because this would not create a change in direction of flow and would allow debris to simply pass/jump over the capped nipple collection point. Commentary Figure G2419.4(2) illustrates a relatively ineffective sediment trap, however, such configurations are not expressly prohibited by this section. The code does not specify a minimum length for the capped nipple, therefore, it could be from a close nipple on up. Three to 6 inches (76 to 152 mm) is the customary length. The capped nipple must be in a vertical plane to allow the sediments to fall in by gravity. The sediment trap must be as close to the appliance inlet as practical to be able to capture sediment from all of the piping upstream of the appliance connection. The sediment trap must be downstream of the appliance shutoff valve to allow the trap to be serviced after closing the upstream shutoff valve. Manufactured sediment traps are available that have the configuration of a straight section of pipe and are equipped with cleanout openings. Although it would be wise to install sediment traps at all appliance connections, they are not mandated by code for gas lights, ranges, clothes dryers and outdoor grills. These appliances are also susceptible to harm from debris in gas, especially ranges and clothes dryers, and the appliance manufacturer may require sediment traps where the code does not. The code’s logic is that these exempt appliances are manually operated rather than automatically operated; therefore, the user would be in attendance and aware of a problem.
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Thanks for the help!
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You don't state where you live, in Okla with cold temps we do not install drip legs on attic installs or exterior pkg units due to the amount of moisture in natural gas this moisture accumulates in the dirty trap and can freeze and burst the line then you have big problems. Different areas may have different amounts of moisture in the natural gas
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