Gas Fired Furnace's Electrical Question.

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by cbottger

Marc we have all kinds of appliances operating on cords;

Yeah, no kidding, but they came with cords. Someone didn't field install them.

Originally Posted by cbottger

Call it poor advice or what ever makes no difference when the local city inspector approves for a new construction and I see many; who am I to call this out

Oh, give me a break. I know there's lots of things that manage to pass city inspections that you guys rightly call out all the time. You just choose not to tackle this one, and that's okay with me. I just know that it's an issue worthy of attention.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

Originally Posted by Marc D. Shunk

Yeah, no kidding, but they came with cords. Someone didn't field install them.

I think this is the operative statement here.

There are FAU's that come (or came, years ago) "from the factory" with an appliance cord & plug. The picture in the original post was obviously a "hack job." It looks to be a piece of an extension cord. It certainly isn't a factory installed appliance cord.

[Charley L. Bottger]

[quote=Marc D. Shunk]Yeah, no kidding, but they came with cords. Someone didn't field install them. quote]

Every time my wife buys an appliance for the rentals she manages; the cords have to be field installed.

No I am not giving any breaks on this one you are just as hard headed as I am. I did not dispute your code quote but in this area the electricans just automatically install outlets for furnaces no matter where the furnace is garage closet, attic or where ever in new construction knowing the HVAC person is going to install a factory style whip on the furnace. If its in the furnace cabinet it belongs to HVAC outside the cabinet belongs to the electrician just the way its done here. End of story

[Marc D. Shunk]

Originally Posted by cbottger

Every time my wife buys an appliance for the rentals she manages; the cords have to be field installed.

No kidding, again, is my answer. Appliances such as dryers, ranges, and disposals are intended and identified by the manufacturer for field installation of cords. This is permitted in the very short copied code section which I pasted, in the section which I highlighted and underlined. A short section you apparently didn't take time to read because it would be too much fun for you to argue about. Try to rationalize cords on warm air furnaces all you want, but it's still an improper installation in the end. As you roam around the country, there are certain violations peculiar to a particular geographic area that are accepted as proper. I guess this is one of them in your area. Sorry to learn that.

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by Marc D. Shunk

No kidding, again, is my answer. Appliances such as dryers, ranges, and disposals are intended and identified by the manufacturer for field installation of cords. This is permitted in the very short copied code section which I pasted, in the section which I highlighted and underlined. A short section you apparently didn't take time to read because it would be too much fun for you to argue about. Try to rationalize cords on warm air furnaces all you want, but it's still an improper installation in the end. As you roam around the country, there are certain violations peculiar to a particular geographic area that are accepted as proper. I guess this is one of them in your area. Sorry to learn that.

Well at least you are learning that everyone does not deem the NEC as the ultimate and cords on furnaces is just one example. Local authority does not see it as a Hazard I don't see it as a hazard and you were unable to tell me what the hazard is other than the bible said it was.

Yes I do like a good occasional argument keeps the mind active for old folks better than a rocking chair.

Us HVAC guys have an old saying about electricans.

You can teach a Pet monkey to bend pipe and pull wire
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