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Old 2/11/06, 2:43 PM
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Copywrite...smopywrite.

I have the gonads to post copywrited material here, so I think I'll get started on this.

Maybe Carson & Dunlop can approach me if they have a problem with me posting any of their reference material.
I'm not sure gonads has anything to do with it either. I just think that, for whatever reason, you're in a bad mood today.

Nonetheless, I have a venture going on elsewhere to which I have to pay attention to copyrights.

For the few copyrighted materials that I have posted here, such as from Barry Stone or Inman News, I've always sought permission before hand. It's usually not difficult to obtain because they want their names and organizations plastered around the Internet just like everyone does. Free publicity. Since Carson Dunlop has the book for sale, they asked me to post a link instead. I did. And I'll leave it at that.

You do your thing as you see fit, and I'll do my thing as I see fit, and may both of us have the best of luck.
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Old 2/12/06, 10:22 PM
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can one actualy put a copyright on reference material? "reference meterial" in and of itself is just a compilement of public information put in one location. all the actual info in any "reference" should be able to be found in other forums and anyone could find it. it's the fact that the authers took the time to gather it all up in put it in a single publication, the cover price is worthy of that effort. i bet if well all put every piece of info we've gathered in this feild together into a book, we could sell it for a huge provit. but if someone had the same info, how could you proove that it was "your" info. i think a bigger risk in posting all that info would be plagerism. and that may get you a call from a lawyer, but i dought thay'de persue it unless you were making a profit form it, which your not. but i've been wrong before..................wait.....no i wasn't.........sorry my mistake.
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Old 2/13/06, 3:31 AM
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can one actualy put a copyright on reference material?
Yes. Just ask the Encyclopedia Britannica people, or anyone else who copyrights their reference material. One can copyright just about anything.

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"reference meterial" in and of itself is just a compilement of public information put in one location. all the actual info in any "reference" should be able to be found in other forums and anyone could find it. it's the fact that the authers took the time to gather it all up in put it in a single publication
Exactly. And as the international copyright courts have determined, the time spent compiling all that information and putting it in one location can be copyrighted. Format also plays a significand part.


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i bet if well all put every piece of info we've gathered in this feild together into a book, we could sell it for a huge provit. but if someone had the same info, how could you proove that it was "your" info.
By copyrighting it.


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i think a bigger risk in posting all that info would be plagerism. and that may get you a call from a lawyer, but i dought thay'de persue it unless you were making a profit form it, which your not.
As far as "plagerism" [sic], this is from the Encyclopedia Britannica:

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Encyclopædia Britannica Search Results: "plagiarism"plagiarism
the act of taking the writings of another person and passing them off as one's own. The fraudulence is closely related to forgery and piracy—practices generally in violation of copyright laws.
Note how they worked "violation of copyright laws" in there?

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Old 2/13/06, 2:01 PM
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I have a code list beginning with Amana and ending with York, but no GE appliances.

Can anyone tell me the date code on this AC unit M/N: BTN724A100A1 S/N: 452614T34 & this furnace M/N BLU080E942B1 S/N 54289T07. Home built in 1982.
(Now I see the "80" after BLU for the furnace. Could be a 1980. How about the AC though?

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Check under Trane.
Same unit inside the GE face plate.
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Old 2/13/06, 2:07 PM
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Only the GE heat pump division was sold to Trane Canada, so checking Trane may or may not be relevant.
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Russell & David. I appeciate both of your posts and replies. Nice to see the spiritedness and passion for continued excellence exhibited in this thread.

I'm good to go on this one. The GE equipment I find out there is usually 20+ years old anyway.

Happy Inspecting!
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Russell & David. . . spiritedness and passion. . .
Ha! It's just that Boston Sam Adams versus my southern margaritas. May the higher proof win!
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Russel. my point is that if you simply "list" the info, who's to say were you got the info. i understand the copyright issue (now, thanx) and agree that if you were to copy verbatim from someone elses' work, and try to call it your own then yeah, big trouble. but if you got the same info from the same public forum as the people who wrote the book, then how could you violate the copyright? i know there is some $1 mil. lawyer out there who could prove i violated the bible by plagiarizing my first name, which was printed there first, and sue my mom for it, but short of that, i don't see how posting a list of names and numbers would be a huge deal. I'm not trying to start a fight with ya Russ, but i do enjoy your intellect, and i think we kinda think the same......i think?
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Old 2/14/06, 2:39 AM
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Russel. my point is that if you simply "list" the info, who's to say were you got the info.
Me under oath in a court of law after being sued for copyright infringement. I tend to tell the truth. . . . most of the time . . . . The other times I can blame it on the margarita pies.

That notwithstanding, I've searched and searched for information in the public forums that is contained in the Technical Reference Guide. It either is not out there or is beyond difficult to find. That in and of itself, coupled with me coming up with exactly the same data, makes it very easy to accuse one of copyright infringement.

Considering some of the links to information that I've saved over the years, and then four years later finding that the link doesn't work and the information cannot be located again, it would not be unusual that the information at one time was out there and Carson Dunlop found it and compiled it. That is the basis for why I think About Homes will work: the world's greatest Internet library about residential real estate (I've always wanted to be a librarian). My domestic partner, Jim, has a bachelor's and a master's in piano performance. He's constantly looking for sheet music published in the late 1800s or early 1900s because the publisher put in a special biography about the composer, or interesting codas, etc. Same thing with About Homes. Need some information on your grandma's historic Wedgewood range from 1952? We have it at About Homes (well, we don't yet, but that's my goal).
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I'm still compiling the info.

Please don't contact C & D to rat me out.

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