How Hot

[Brian E. Kelly]

does it have to be to cook the firebrick????

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

does it have to be to cook the firebrick????

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[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by dduffy

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Thank you Squire.


4 year old fireplace

[Russel Ray]

Might not have been firebrick, but even firebrick eventually breaks down.

[Michael Roberson]

Is it one of those prefab firebrick backers that only looks like brick? I have seen them crack before as well. I think throwing the wood against the back of the firebox doesn't help either.

[Jae Williams]

Put some duct tape on it.

[Tim Larsen]

I second the fake backer. I've cracked those myself.
Love those big fires...

Tim

[James F. McKee]

if it's only 4 years old and in death valley, it's probably not fire Brick,,,those manufactured units are not really designed for big roaring fires imo,...

[Brian E. Kelly]

It is indeed Refactory Firebrick Liner.

That is how prefabricated fireplaces come.

And, damaged as it is, it is now a defect and a big deal.


http://www.vermontcastings.com/catal...LINER_REV1.pdf

[James F. McKee]

there is a far cry between a liner and a 4" thick fire brick Brian ...no matter what they call it...i believe that might be part of the reason they make replacement liner Kits so readily available...

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by jmckee

there is a far cry between a liner and a 4" thick fire brick Brian ...no matter what they call it...i believe that might be part of the reason they make replacement liner Kits so readily available...

Ahh, therin lies the rub James.

What the manufacturer calls it, how it is listed and tested is the point.

Now, there may well be other designations or uses of the words "Firebrick" that are used elswhere, but that is not really important in, this situation.

I was only goofing off until others chimed in with...... Opinions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Michael R. Boyett]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

And, damaged as it is, it is now a defect and a big deal.

Well, maybe...maybe not. A couple of years ago I inspected a run down 4-plex that had fireplaces with refractory firebrick liners that had completely deteriorated with a couple of them missing altogether. I talked to the manufacturer of the fireplaces and they informed me the refractory bricks were essentially cosmetic and might help radiate a little heat out into the room but were not critical to the operation of the fireplace and the lack of them did not affect the UL listing of the fireplace nor did it affect their warranty.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mobster

Well, maybe...maybe not. A couple of years ago I inspected a run down 4-plex that had fireplaces with refractory firebrick liners that had completely deteriorated with a couple of them missing altogether. I talked to the manufacturer of the fireplaces and they informed me the refractory bricks were essentially cosmetic and might help radiate a little heat out into the room but were not critical to the operation of the fireplace and the lack of them did not affect the UL listing of the fireplace nor did it affect their warranty.

Great information Michael.

Shame on me, for ASSuming that they were all similar.

Shakespeare and the sword comes to mind.............

[Brian E. Kelly]

http://www.lennoxhearthproducts.com/...42%20(C&O).pdf

page 5 refectories

But then again, I would like to see some documentation that says a UL listed fireplace can be used with out all the components in good working order.

[James F. McKee]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Ahh, therin lies the rub James.

What the manufacturer calls it, how it is listed and tested is the point.

Now, there may well be other designations or uses of the words "Firebrick" that are used elswhere, but that is not really important in, this situation.

I was only goofing off until others chimed in with...... Opinions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

and i was only pointing out the obvious