I need help!

[Billy Boerner]

I need a year on my furnace.

Make: York

Furnace Serial: EBD5053872

AC Condenser Serial: EBDM061592

Problem is there is two D's according to the chart below. 74 or 95.


YORK (Unitary Products since 1984)
Note: they skip the letters I, O, Q, U, Z.
Year of make indicated by 3rd letter in the serial number.
Fraser, Johnston and Luxaire were purchased by York in 1980.
1971 - A
1972 - B
1973 - C
1974 - D
1975 - E
1976 - F
1977 - G
1978 - H
1979 - J
1980 - K
1981 - L
1982 – M
1983 – N
1984 – P
1985 - R
1986 - S
1987 - T
1988 - V
1989 - W
1990 - X
1991 – Y
1992 – A
1993 - B
1994 - C
1995 – D
1996 - E
1997 - F
1998 - G
1999 - H
2000 - J
2001 - K
2002 - L
2003 - M
2004 - N
2005 - P
2006 - R
2007 – S

[mnahrgang]

you can't look at the unit and make a guess as to which of two decades it might have been manufactured in?

If it works at all, my guess is it's a 95 and they should budget for replacement in the next 5 years or so.

If it's a 74, it's way beyond it's expected useful life and should be budgeted for immediate replacement.

Sooo....
How old was the house?
How old was the AC?
Was there an ANSI date on the label?
Do you have a picture of the label you can post.

Lastly to your post title "I need help!"

We know bro, but the help you really need, we can't provide.

[Billy Boerner]

Originally Posted by mnahrgang

you can't look at the unit and make a guess as to which of two decades it might have been manufactured in?

If it works at all, my guess is it's a 95 and they should budget for replacement in the next 5 years or so.

If it's a 74, it's way beyond it's expected useful life and should be budgeted for immediate replacement.

Sooo....
How old was the house?
How old was the AC?
Was there an ANSI date on the label?
Do you have a picture of the label you can post.

Lastly to your post title "I need help!"

We know bro, but the help you really need, we can't provide.

House was build in 96. Furnace was not original. Brown and older looking. AC much newer so 95 is accurate. The furnance did not look like it was manufactured in 95. Why does York use the same two codes for year?

[mnahrgang]

Originally Posted by bboerner

House was build in 96. Then 95 for manuf date makes sens. Furnace was not original. Really? How do you know that? Brown and older looking. Maybe it's just worn out and shot? I've seen relatively new stuff that was trashed, and older stuff that looks like new. AC much newer so 95 is accurate. Maybe the AC held up better. The furnance did not look like it was manufactured in 95. Maybe it wasn't, but it doesn't make much sense to install a 20 year old furnace in a brand new house in 1996. Why does York use the same two codes for year? Why ask why. Maybe they figured that anything over 20 years old wasn't likely to be around or supported anyway.

I'd go with the 95 manuf date for my report, but document the condition and explain that it worked (if it did) but based on it's condition it will likely need to be replaced in the near future (just to cya).

BTW, You might want to send Russel Ray an e-mail. I don't know how much he watches the board any more, but he's got some personal resources that he can draw on to answer something like this.

[Larry J. Michael]

Must be serious if you are asking for help Billy.

[Billy Boerner]

The estimated useful life for most forced air furnaces is 15 to 20 years. The inspector was unable to determine the age of the furnace. The clients should be aware that this furnace may be near, at, or beyond its useful life and may need replacing at any time. Recommend attempting to determine the furnace's age (ask property owner or service technician), and budgeting for a replacement if necessary.

I'm simply going with this one. Then I'm calling York tomorrow and ask them why the screwy date system they have. Come on really they couldn't think of something better? lol

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by bboerner

The estimated useful life for most forced air furnaces is 15 to 20 years. The inspector was unable to determine the age of the furnace. The clients should be aware that this furnace may be near, at, or beyond its useful life and may need replacing at any time. Recommend attempting to determine the furnace's age (ask property owner or service technician), and budgeting for a replacement if necessary.

I'm simply going with this one. Then I'm calling York tomorrow and ask them why the screwy date system they have. Come on really they couldn't think of something better? lol

You might also add:
I recommend a qualified HVAC contractor give the heating and cooling system an annual inspection of normal safety operations.

[Billy Boerner]

Thanks Chris

[Billy Boerner]

Come to find out for York... People might want to write this down.

Four letters = newer

2 letters in the serial number = older

Since this serial number had four letters it turned out to be 1995.

[Christian F. Mettel]

Originally Posted by bboerner

Come to find out for York... People might want to write this down.

Four letters = newer

2 letters in the serial number = older

Since this serial number had four letters it turned out to be 1995.

Thanks Billy, that's good to know.

[agallatin]

What efficiency rating it is , would have some bearing of era it was built . IMO

[Sean Fogarty]

Originally Posted by agallatin

What efficiency rating it is , would have some bearing of era it was built . IMO

Correct!
If it was a 75 it should be 60% and a draft furnace.

[David P. OKeefe]

First thing I do is check for an ANCI date on the furnace label, if it has one. This give me an approximate date of manufacture. I can give my client a reasonable age of the unit at the inspection and then later on I'll look up the ser.#.

[jhugenroth]

Quoted by Mark Nahrgang
...it doesn't make much sense to install a 20 year old furnace in a brand new house in 1996...

My thoughts as well. Billy, you need to stop over-analyzing and use plain old common sense sometimes.